Spoilers Picard: COUNTDOWN! - Comic is available, spoiler discussion within

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  1. Khan 2.0

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  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Countdown... to Countdown... and how to reconcile Countdown with Countdown!
     
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  3. WarpFactorZ

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    This might be the first Trek comic I buy since the original Countdown! I'm super pumped about ST:P.
     
  4. thribs

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    Sounds like it could be a follow up to the original comic. Could be interesting
     
  5. The Wormhole

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    So, the comic prequel starts in November and the tie-in novel is out in February. I guess everything's in alignment for Picard to have a winter premiere?
     
  6. Greg Cox

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    Wasn't COUNTDOWN the one where Darkseid killed all the New Gods and Jimmy Olsen had sex with an alien insect-woman?

    Or was that a different COUNTDOWN comic? :)
     
  7. JD

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    Where did you hear that? The only thing I've heard is that it follows a mission that will have some kind of a big impact on Picard.
    Yeah, it does have Countdown as it's title, but it seems to me that's more of a generic "this is a prequel" title, rather than an indication it actually follows up on the Kelvinverse prequel.
     
  8. thribs

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    Considering the show seems to involve the Romulans, this could follow up from what happened to them in the previous Countdown comic.
     
  9. JD

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    Is Countdown even consistent with what we know of Picard?
     
  10. Christopher

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    Yeah, IDW did Countdown for the first Kelvin movie and Countdown to Darkness for the second. I figure they're just using it as a go-to title for Trek prequel comics, like how DC uses "Crisis" for many of its event comics even when they have nothing to do with each other.
     
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    I hear the author of the novelization hangs out here. Maybe you can ask him. ;)
     
  12. Lord Hobbers

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    I wonder if the Starfleet characters in this new Star Trek: Picard - Countdown comic will wear the uniforms from the Lower Decks cartoon, since that seems to be set just after Nemesis too.
     
  13. F. King Daniel

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    In Countdown' s 2387 , Data is alive (in B-4's body) and is Captain of the USS Enterprise. In Picard, B-4 is in parts in a drawer somewhere and Picard...
    Visits Nemesis-era Data on the holodeck. Whether it's Data's actual consciousness or just a holographic recreation of Data is unknown as of yet.
     
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    It's like 2009 all over again! Can't wait to read this
     
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  15. WarpFactorZ

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    But Picard takes place in 2399, so there's plenty of time for B4/Data to be drawered.
     
  16. JoeZhang

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    Given that one of the plotlines is about Picard's guilt at the death of Data - it seems pretty unlikely to inject "and then he was alive again for a bit and then not" - narratively it adds a confusing unnecessary beat.
     
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  17. F. King Daniel

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    Doesn't quite fit with "almost 20 years ago, Commander Data sacrificed his life for me."

    Imagine the next line, "But he was fine until a couple of weeks ago."
     
  18. JD

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    That's what I suspected.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    I doubt it. The original comic isn't consistent with Picard.
     
  20. StewMc

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    Isn’t Picard also the Ambassador to Vulcan(?) in Countdown? Based on the trailer and the backstory snippets released in the Picard museum there’s no sign that happened pre-PIC either. Left the Enterprise in 2381 and retired in 2385 IIRC.

    Even if you squint I don’t think the original Countdown is going to fit in to any of this at all...
     
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