Robert Picardo to return for Picard

[Infern0]

This is full four quadrant insanity:
There are people that like DIS and look forward to PIC (obviously), people that don't like DIS and don't look forward to DIS (understandable), people that don't like DIS but looking forward to PIC (hoping for the best), and people that like DIS that don't look forward to PIC (IMO a bit weird).

I've seen all four kind around here. And all for are completely valid opinions. And yet personally, I find some more understandable than others.

Well I saw someone say that they were worried because they loved discovery and didn't want Picard to happen because they didn't want the message of star trek to be that white men are important.

I mean I get that because of pike in disco but picard is a classic character so can't we make an exception for him.

 

[KennyB]

Well I saw someone say that they were worried because they loved discovery and didn't want Picard to happen because they didn't want the message of star trek to be that white men are important.

I mean I get that because of pike in disco but picard is a classic character so can't we make an exception for him.

So no you don't have real examples? You just saw something somewhere? OK.

 

[Infern0]

So no you don't have real examples? You just saw something somewhere? OK.

I'm not going to trawl the board for quotes there's plenty around if you have two eyes (or even one or dictation software), and I am very busy writing a thesis on women's portrayal in commercials and why it needs to change.

People are angry and upset that a white man who isn't the villain in this series is in it.

Many of my friends are activists and all we want is everyone to be treated equally and that means no more white men on TV thankyou.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm not going to trawl the board for quotes there's plenty around if you have two eyes (or even one or dictation software), and I am very busy writing a thesis on women's portrayal in commercials and why it needs to change.

People are angry and upset that a white man who isn't the villain in this series is in it.

Many of my friends are activists and all we want is everyone to be treated equally and that means no more white men on TV thankyou.

You're shooting yourself in the foot by doubling down. In a thesis, you have to list sources. This is no different. If you have time to take away from writing your thesis by posting here, then you have time to find a thread and cut-and-paste one quote that you can link to. Even one. You wouldn't have to dig very far if there actually is plenty around. It wouldn't take any time at all.

 

[Infern0]

You're shooting yourself in the foot by doubling down. In a thesis, you have to list sources. This is no different. If you have time to take away from writing your thesis by posting here, then you have time to find a thread and cut-and-paste one quote that you can link to. Even one. You wouldn't have to dig very far if there actually is plenty around. It wouldn't take any time at all.

I'm not doing a thesis on this post. It takes me 30 seconds to write a reply, trawling the boards would take multiple minutes

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm not doing a thesis on this post. It takes me 30 seconds to write a reply, trawling the boards would take multiple minutes

If your time is really that tight, you should get back to your thesis. Best of luck with it. I hope it passes muster with your professor and whoever else reviews it.

 

[Jonesy]

Honestly, as long as the guest spots and cameos are well done and/or serve the story I don't have a problem with this.

This is what I'm most concerned with. I have no problems with bringing back characters, but what does it mean for the overall story.

 

[KennyB]

If your time is really that tight, you should get back to your thesis.

Yes no time to spare at all.........ok.

 

[Rahul]

I'm not going to trawl the board for quotes there's plenty around if you have two eyes (or even one or dictation software), and I am very busy writing a thesis on women's portrayal in commercials and why it needs to change.

People are angry and upset that a white man who isn't the villain in this series is in it.

Many of my friends are activists and all we want is everyone to be treated equally and that means no more white men on TV thankyou.

Never reveal that much about yourself on the internet. People around here are entirely unfazed by sources, but they will jump at every opportunity to make it personal (within the boards rules)

You're shooting yourself in the foot by doubling down. In a thesis, you have to list sources. This is no different. If you have time to take away from writing your thesis by posting here, then you have time to find a thread and cut-and-paste one quote that you can link to. Even one. You wouldn't have to dig very far if there actually is plenty around. It wouldn't take any time at all.

Where I can back @Infern0 up is that I have seen the complain "the show looks awfully white" around here. Multiple times. Though nothing that sounded really "angry" or "upset". But then, I'm really only reading targeted few threads here.

And no, I'm not going to crawl back and search for sources. This is not a thesis. In a thesis the reading audience cares about the sources. Here it's obviously used to dismiss Infern0s opinion (which I don't agree with either, btw) by holding her post to unfair standards.

Yes no time to spare at all.........ok.

Yes, that looks perfectly like a person sitting from very early in the morning to very late at night in front of a computer at home, and tabbing every two hours between breaks on the internet...

There's a difference between doing a fun thing (reading up on a hobby between breaks) and a stupid thing (wasting time to please two grumpy strangers in the internet by doing research that will get dismissed anyway). Unless I get payed for it, I wouldn't do the second thing either.

People are angry and upset that a white man who isn't the villain in this series is in it.

Many of my friends are activists and all we want is everyone to be treated equally and that means no more white men on TV thankyou.

Also, I really doubt that part, and that doesn't sound like a good-faith argument either...

 

[Timofnine]

Great news! I’d love for a second 24th century spin off series or short treks focusing on other characters from the past too.

 

[KennyB]

I have seen the complain "the show looks awfully white" around here. Multiple times.

Isa Briones-Filipino
Michelle Hurd-African American
Santiago Cabrera-Venezuelian
Evan Evangora-Maori/Greek
Patrick Stewart-English
Allison Pill-Canadian
Harry Treadway-English

IDK.....looks uninformed.

 

[Llywela]

Isa Briones-Filipino
Michelle Hurd-African American
Santiago Cabrera-Venezuelian
Evan Evangora-Maori/Greek
Patrick Stewart-English
Allison Pill-Canadian
Harry Treadway-English

Tiny nitpick - Cabrera was born in Venezuela but his nationality is Chilean - his father was a diplomat so they moved around a lot (hence the mostly English accent).

But yeah, out of seven regulars, only three are white, despite complaints to the contrary. Heh, and only one is actually American, in this most American of shows!

 

[mos6507]

I have seen the complain "the show looks awfully white" around here.

The funny thing is that those who tend to sing that tune the loudest (which includes fans, creators, and the media) are themselves white.

 

[The Wormhole]

The funny thing is that those who tend to sing that tune the loudest (which includes fans, creators, and the media) are themselves white.

Your point?

 

[ITDUDE]

This forum has no rules against profanity. Meaning we can say whatever the fuck we want.

I recall there was. Until Tilly anyway. Once Trek went profanity, no point to stop them on the forums.

 

[ITDUDE]

People are angry and upset that a white man who isn't the villain in this series is in it.

Many of my friends are activists and all we want is everyone to be treated equally and that means no more white men on TV thankyou.

WTF? Are you for real?

 

[The Wormhole]

I recall there was. Until Tilly anyway. Once Trek went profanity, no point to stop them on the forums.

There was never a policy against profanity. I know, I've been using profanity on this forum long before Tilly made it cool, and have never been penalized for it. Besides, if Trek BBS had a problem with profanity, the forum software likely includes a profanity filter option (most forum softwares do) which instantly renders a swear word into a series of asterisks. So if there were a problem with profanity, they could just turn the profanity filter on and prevent us from swearing.

Bottom line, there's no fucking reason to get after other posters for using fucking profanity. We can post that shit all the fuck we want.

 

[Infern0]

Your point?

White is ok

Straight is ok

Male is ok

All 3 combined is the WORST, a combination of 2 is iffy, only 1 is fine

 

[KennyB]

Tiny nitpick - Cabrera was born in Venezuela but his nationality is Chilean - his father was a diplomat so they moved around a lot (hence the mostly English accent).

But yeah, out of seven regulars, only three are white, despite complaints to the contrary. Heh, and only one is actually American, in this most American of shows!

Good info!

 

[KennyB]

White is ok

Straight is ok

Male is ok

All 3 combined is the WORST, a combination of 2 is iffy, only 1 is fine

really?