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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Throg dates back to Walter Simonson's run on Thor. After The disappearance of Odin, Thor and Loki were supposed to appear at a ceremony to determine who would be the next ruler of Asgard. In order to keep Thor from attending, Loki turned Thor into a frog. So Thor spent three issues helping the frogs of Central Park defeat the alligators before returning to Mjolner, with heroic and God like effort, managed to lift the hammer and become Throg, frog of thunder before returning to Asgard to confront Loki.

And I thought pre-Crisis DC had cornered the market on dumb ideas.
 
And I thought pre-Crisis DC had cornered the market on dumb ideas.
It was, in fact, fucking amazing. it's all in the execution, man. That was easily one of the most ridiculously funny super hero comics I have ever read in my life while still serving the needs of the story and characters. IMHO, Walt Simonson is the best Thor writer outside of Lee / Kirby.
 
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I'd rather see Marvel Studios shell out cash and incentives to get Natalie Portman to return and set her up as a "new God" , as it were, than introduce Beta Ray Bill, who isn't really anything other than "alien Horse Thor".

This sort of attitude is exactly what folks used to think about Tony and Steve.

"Just make movies about the name characters and Marvel A-Listers! No one wants stories about Iron Man or Captain America!"
 
Throg dates back to Walter Simonson's run on Thor. After The disappearance of Odin, Thor and Loki were supposed to appear at a ceremony to determine who would be the next ruler of Asgard. In order to keep Thor from attending, Loki turned Thor into a frog. So Thor spent three issues helping the frogs of Central Park defeat the alligators before returning to Mjolnir, and with heroic and God like effort, managed to lift the hammer and become Throg, frog of thunder before returning to Asgard to confront Loki.

I wasn't that fond of Thor: Ragnarok and I'm iffy about Waititi doing a second film, but I'll be totally behind it if this is the story they tell. They can call it Frognarok.
 
There is a Shang-Chi casting notice that states Marvel is only looking at actors of Chinese heritage for the role, no other Asian nationalities. This has caused quite a sensation with the Chinese, who are super stoked to see a Marvel superhero who shares their heritage. I have to imagine that even if this movie only does moderate, say Ant-Man level, amounts of money in the US, it's going to make a boatload of cash in China.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/marvel-shang-chi-china-avengers-1203268595/

Unless in the new version, his parents met at Tiananmen Square in 1989.
 
There is a Shang-Chi casting notice that states Marvel is only looking at actors of Chinese heritage for the role, no other Asian nationalities.

Good. There's still too much of a tendency in the US to assume all Asians look alike and can be cast interchangeably. Now maybe someday they'll stop casting Indians as Arabs (e.g. Naveen Andrews in Lost and Naomi Scott in Aladdin).
 
Throg is a bit far for me in live action. Maybe in an animated Marvel feature or a TV series.

Beta Ray Bill would be rad though.
 

Technically, he was an A-lister for a long part of his history. In the 1940s, he was Timely/Atlas' most successful superhero character, outlasting The Human Torch and Sub-Mariner as a feature title (78 issues as opposed to Once retconned and revived in 1964, it was not long before his popularity was such that he was added to Tales of Suspense, splitting the title with Iron Man, until it was eventually absorbed into Captain America #100 (1968), while Iron Man had to start with #1.

He was always popular in The Avengers, in his aforementioned solo book, and was a constant guest-star in other titles, such as Daredevil, Strange Tales, The Amazing Spider-Man, and on and on. CA was also one of the earliest mass merchandised and adapted Marvel characters during the fabled "Super Hero Boom" of the mid 1960s, with as many produced items as Spider-Man or the Hulk--the other two breakout Marvel characters of the period.

While sales slumped in the 70s (like many comics), there's no denying that Captain America was an A-lister in the Golden Age, Silver Age, and early into the Bronze.
 
I liked Thor Ragnarok, but it was a little more on the comedic side than I wanted it to be, and I'm hoping that Thor 4 will dial things back a little.
This is Taikia Waitit again, so there is pretty much know way that is going to happen. If they were going to "dial it back a little" they would have gotten a different writer/director, so if anything I'd say they'll probably lean further into that this time, especially if they don't have to deal with a topic as dark as Ragnarok.
And I thought pre-Crisis DC had cornered the market on dumb ideas.
Wow, you really do hate anything fun don't you.
Throg is a bit far for me in live action. Maybe in an animated Marvel feature or a TV series.
After everything they've already done, I'm pretty much convinced there is nothing Marvel can't pull off, at least in terms of crazy/weird characters and stuff like that.
 
I'd rather see Marvel Studios shell out cash and incentives to get Natalie Portman to return and set her up as a "new God" , as it were, than introduce Beta Ray Bill, who isn't really anything other than "alien Horse Thor".

I'd prefer if Natalie Portman is never in a MCU movie or tv show again. There are so many better characters they can use.

Good. There's still too much of a tendency in the US to assume all Asians look alike and can be cast interchangeably. Now maybe someday they'll stop casting Indians as Arabs (e.g. Naveen Andrews in Lost and Naomi Scott in Aladdin).

Yes, how dare an actor to pretend to be something they aren't.
 
Give Portman a science-heavy story to play with and she'll be happier. Even better, if that science-heavy movie has Patty Jenkins or some other director she trusts...?
 
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