Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    16.7%
  2. A

    40.0%
  3. A-

    13.3%
  4. B+

    5.6%
  5. B

    14.4%
  6. B-

    3.3%
  7. C+

    2.2%
  8. C

    3.3%
  9. C-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    1.1%
  1. Evil Headhunter

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    Apparently Tessa Thompson teased that she needs to seek out her Queen. Hopefully that's not just a tease and they actually do something this time.
     
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  2. Samurai8472

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    They must have rolled up to her house with trucks loaded with money earned from "Endgame" lol

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  3. TREK_GOD_1

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    Yeah, too bad. Snipes was great in the original Blade film.

    As for the rest, it hard to guess how they will be received, as there's not many A or B list characters as that stands for Marvel characters today (on film or in the comics)
     
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    He probably needed the second name to try to get work. Hollywood doesn't like Asians.
     
  5. kirk55555

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    So the worst character in the Thor films is back as the worst Thor thing that the comics have done in my lifetime. That means that the MCU's version of Jennifer Lawrence is back to shit on another Thor movie (although that's a bit unfair to Lawrence, because unlike Portman at least Lawrence put effort into one superhero film, X-Men First Class, which is one more superhero movie then Portman has put any effort into). I wonder how much Portman got paid to stand around looking bored in this film. A mediocre actress who puts no effort into superhero stuff getting to play a shitty, badly written marketing gimmick. Yippee. Plus, now we're back to another boring as fuck Earth setting for Thor after getting great space/asgard stuff. On top of all of this, we're probably getting the obnoxious sitcom woman back. It looks like Thor Ragnarok was a "one hit wonder" for this director, which sucks.

    At least the other Marvel movies look good. I'm hyped for Doctor Strange 2, and eternals and Shang Chi seem interesting (especially since we're getting the real Mandarin, something that many people said would never happen).

    Also, I can't express how badly I want MCU FF and X-Men films (unless they're doing a shitty "FF in the 1960s thing", which would make the MCU FF automatically one of my most hated superhero movies).
     
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    Ali was Cottonmouth in season 1 of Luke Cage. Is this the first Marvel "Netflix" universe actor then recast for another MCU role? Considering the Netflix universe is basically being Ang Lee "Hulked" I doubt Marvel plans to use any characters from it with the actor from the netflix series
     
  8. TREK_GOD_1

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    ..and that's terrible if that's the case, since the Netflix Marvel shows were among the best, rewatchable hours of adapted Marvel since the start of the MCU franchise.
     
  9. Turtletrekker

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    Alfre Woodard, also from Luke Cage, had a small role in Civil War. There are a few others. The actor from Agent Carter who was the love interest played a cop in Avengers. The guy who played Blackout on AoS played a bartender in Captain Marvel. This is the first time that an actor has had a two major roles.
     
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  10. Christopher

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    I think that would be Clancy Brown, who played General Schoonover in Daredevil season 2 and The Punisher season 1 and then voiced Surtur in Thor: Ragnarok. Also, Miles Mussenden appeared in a small role in a Luke Cage episode and then appeared in Spider-Man: Homecoming, as well as being a regular on Cloak & Dagger season 1 (recurring in season 2) as Tyrone's father.

    It's gone the other way a couple of times -- Alfre Woodard and Tony Curran got Netflix MCU roles after appearing in different MCU film roles. That means both Stokes siblings from Luke Cage now have dual roles.
     
  11. Evil Headhunter

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    Yeah, that's what I figured. *sigh*

    It's still bad that A.V. Club and io9 didn't realize this.
     
  12. Tosk

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    Why do they need to be? Most of the mega-hits the MCU has had in the last decade has been with characters that aren't well known in the mainstream. Plus, I don't think the mainstream even cares if they have heard of a character before. The MCU itself is the star now.
     
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  14. Christopher

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    Nobody'd ever heard of Luke Skywalker in 1977. Nobody'd ever heard of Marty McFly in 1985. Nobody'd ever heard of Woody and Buzz before Toy Story came out. The mentality that only previously known characters can succeed is deeply bizarre to me. Every famous character starts out unknown.
     
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  15. Evil Headhunter

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    Amen. That was one of the greatest runs on THOR ever. Classic stuff.
     
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  17. Greg Cox

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    I think hardcore comics fans care more about the whole "A-list" vs. "B-list" thing than the average moviegoer, who just want want to see a fun movie. And, honestly, I remember people predicting that the first THOR was going to bomb because it was too far-out for general audiences, that GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY was going to be the next HOWARD THE DUCK because it had a talking raccoon in it and because they were D-list characters, that nobody would go to see ANT-MAN movie, etc.

    Marvel will have an epic flop someday, but so far the internet has a lousy track record when it comes to second-guessing them.
     
  18. Tosk

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    You'd think it would have to happen eventually, but thankfully we're well past the point where it could put the kibosh on the whole McGillicutty. :)
     
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  19. element7ero

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    They don't have a release date announced yet for those correct?
     
  20. TREK_GOD_1

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    The MCU has created a perception of what their A or B list characters are (by use, appeal, importance to the overall universe, etc.), hence the reason people still wonder how the MCU will function post Iron Man and Captain America, who again, became the center of that universe--having an almost incalculable effect on the franchise.. For that reason, audiences also do not see or consider these characters (now in an established film universe) in a catch-all blur, or in a "one is the same as the other" manner, so it naturally makes one wonder with no IM or Cap, how will the announced films will be received.