Myup!Ya just HAD to go there, didn't ya!
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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BISCUITS!
I think people are a little too into making goofs about it, but it's really a shining example of what a fucking bald-faced liar Alec is. As if he believes his statements mold the reality around him.
Not recounting the exploits of LFIM probably ticks him off to no end.
There is so much more to this that will come out soon but yeah---Alec is a big lovable teddy bear........why can't he keep friends. And now that his partner took his coffee machines and went home LFIM calls him a drunk and an addict........classy. Poor guy followed him the Georgia from LA.......well not poor guy, gullible guy.
The eighties! Just the eighties??
My friend, compared to the artists who made Marvel in the sixties and seventies - Google the art of Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Jim Steranko, John Buscema, John Romita Sr. and Jr., etc. - the axacomic artists are drawing at the level of preschoolers.
And here's the thing: You know they're doing this digitally and throwing in a bunch of computer shading and filtering and new-fangled nonsense and probably think they're creating masterpieces. The guys and gals who drew comics in the silver age - late fifties to early nineties - drew them with pencils on glorified oaktag and sometimes had to draw several full comics in a single month just so the page rates would allow them to eat regularly and pay their mortgages. Those people drew comics! By comparison the axa-"artists" are doing sketchups in Paint on their tablets while sitting on the john.
That's one reason I'm on their case so hard. I live for the type of comic art in the comics I grew up reading, where you only had your two hands and some office supplies to try and tell dynamic stories on paper. Modern comic artists hardly even try anymore. The think the computer will do all the work. It's wrong -headed and drives me crazy, and in this particular instance seeing axalytes mooning over these static pages that the artists needed months and thousand-dollar illustration programs to draw makes me pray for the state of humanity.
I just noticed that Potemkin_Prod hasn't posted here since the argument about what the Axamonitor "endgame" was. I also notice that his profile says "Gone and hopefully forgotten." When I tried to @ the username nothing shows up, so it looks like he bailed. Anyone else care to see if searching for his username yields anything (maybe he blocked me for being critical of his productions)?
To be fair...it's not "preschool" stuff. I bet most people in this forum could not draw as well. Yes, there's a trend in modern comics and animation towards what I consider ugly character design lacking in draughtsmanship, but c'est la vie.
Randy is very busy with Potemkin, he also dislikes conflict as many of us do. there is a lot of conflict concerning that Axanar deal here and I don't blame him one bit for steering clear for now.
Knowing Randy for years, it's rarely something personal. It's more about putting his time and effort into the Potemkin crew and productions.
BTW has anyone noticed Potemkin releases at least 12 productions each year? meanwhile it's Axanar this, that and the..... oh look Alec farted.
Potemkin goes unnoticed while those begging for funding hit the blog sites. Personally I only worry about those that actually do stuff.
I love all the attention Carlos or Trekzone brings but shine a bit of the light on something positive a little more often.
That's why it is so odd to me that Randy defends Alec..........
Trust me Randy defends Star Trek and fanfilms/ fanzines, Alec is something that should have gone away years ago but won't.
Prelude and The Last Child released around the same time. Prelude with hundreds of thousands of donor dollars and the Last Child was months and months of hard work by us all. The last Child was hardly a footnote while cheers and awards for Axanar.
and for what? well known (great) actors reading statements.
Defending Alec or just being the adult in the room? I'm only a lowly script writer, the political crap is some other person's chore to screw up.
Drop by give us a thumbs up once in a while, all we ask is a smile and a good word for the effort, is that so much?
See, I have a lot of respect that Randy grinds out stuff. He does actually execute. I've uptheard wagged my finger at people who spend all kinds of time posting about Axanar and never comment on most of the films that get shared here. I mean, we get things like Fallen Star and so on that garner in-total a half dozen commenters, if that. I can see why some fan filmmakers stopped dropping in.
OTOH I myself stopped commenting on Randy's films because he mostly seemed to respond only to those that were praising his group's work, and it seems like he put me on Ignore after a point he never responded to anything I wrote; even questions—likely because I'd admit disappointment that the films seemed stuck in a rut of easily-correctable technical and editorial issues that never get any better production after production.
I don't think you can expect much of a dialog on a BBS if you only acknowledge approbation. This doesn't appear to be limited to this BBS, either, or to Potemkin; I saw that even mildly critical comments posted to Potemkin Productions videos and other Trek fanfilms on YouTube quickly vanish.
YMMV.
OTOH I myself stopped commenting on Randy's films because he mostly seemed to respond only to those that were praising his group's work, and it seems like he put me on Ignore after a point he never responded to anything I wrote; even questions—likely because I'd admit disappointment that the films seemed stuck in a rut of easily-correctable technical and editorial issues that never get any better production after production.
His most recent film (LINK) still suffers from exactly the same framing and continuity issues that every Potemkin film has suffered since the beginning.
YMMV.
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I actually understand all of that and the frustrations that comes with it all. Honestly you can't fix the issues and remain a fan film.
Consider:
http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/
Randy is out promoting people that expressed their love for Trek while Alec was still sucking tit. Now you got to sit next to the guy that thumbs his nose at the zero budget bug at his feet?
Pm Randy, ask how you can help pre production. By time it's public it's done. some times right or with issues, it's just the nature of real fan films. It's not about being perfect, it's about doing it.
Man I wish we could just put another $500 into each film, 6 grand a year but we are all working class people ourselves.
Once upon a time I did PM him to suggest fixes he could apply "next time", as in a scene with Grigory and T'noshi that completely broke the 180º Rule and he defended it as an "artistic" choice. In another case I saw what I vaguely recall was a preliminary version of something Potemkin and pointed out an easy fix to some directional continuity issues with the spaceship shots (flopping them, since the texts on them didn't show), which he didn't do. Since then I tried to PM Randy a few times and he never responded, so I assume he either ignores me or blocked me.
Honestly, any half-decent editor could take almost any of the films Potemkin's released and make them way better with just some proper editorial.
Honestly, any half-decent editor could take almost any of the films Potemkin's released and make them way better with just some proper editorial.
Sadly it seems people are far more interested in the drama around fan films than the actual fan films.
For most, criticism stings a bit BUT that's how you grow as a film maker.....or as anything. You can't surround yourself with yes men in an echo chamber and expect to change at all, after all THEY ALL LOVED the last one I did! Let's do more of the same! And if you are JUST doing it for your own enjoyment and not asking for money, then I guess that is fine.
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If you look at the comments on TTI there are a fair number of nasty ones, and we leave those there, because the audience is always right about what it likes and doesn't.