The Disease

[gakelly]

Janeway was always super cranky because she couldn't get any loving; had she been getting some action, at least she wouldn't have been so contemptuous and annoying. The holodeck guy seemed to get her in a better mood...hmmm.

 

[Finn]

Janeway was always super cranky because she couldn't get any loving; had she been getting some action, at least she wouldn't have been so contemptuous and annoying. The holodeck guy seemed to get her in a better mood...hmmm.

how misogynistic....

With known species there is likely an official approved list and any official gathering of permission is assumed to happen off screen.

That doesn't really address the post you quoted...

 

[JirinPanthosa]

That doesn't really address the post you quoted...

How many of their sexual encounters were truly with unknown species? I guess in The Host they didn't know about symbionts. But there are very few situations where crewmembers had sex with aliens who have never had an opportunity to exchange basic biological data.

I don't know, maybe Picard was just cool like that. Or maybe the rules are "If you won't die and it isn't against the law, go for it".

 

[gakelly]

how misogynistic....

#FakeOutrage.

 

[Finn]

#FakeOutrage.

 

[gakelly]

Obviously the idea that someone can be in a better mood if they are involved in a relationship where needs are met MUST be misogynistic.

 

[at Quark's]

Well, this particular "rule" was invoked again in VOY in "The Prophecy" in regard to Klingons, who should have been a very familiar species by that point.


Maybe it was just one of Janeway's pet peeves.

Kor

But those weren't your ordinary 24th century Klingons. They (or rather their forefathers) had left at a time when the Klingons were still at war with the Federation. Perhaps, for some unclear reason, they didn't fall under the standard approval of familiar species because of that.

(I'll be the first to admit that this argument doesn't sound terribly strong, but hey, I'm trying to find some form of explanation here ).

 

[Prax]

Plus those Klingons were carrying a literal disease(as opposed to the metaphorical one Harry Kim caught in "The Disease")

 

[jmidnight_99]

Yeah, pretty ridiculous and too inconsistent with the rest of the franchise. The one way it can kind of work is if, as the episode suggests around its middle, the requirement exists but isn't actually followed or taken seriously anymore, but then the episode ends with declaring that taking it seriously and actually requiring it to be followed are standard, what any captain would do.

Or if you interpret that it actually just applies to with newly-encountered species, which I don't think was really suggested by the episode but is something to try to make it make sense.

Actually, you're aboard a spaceship, coming into contact with new aliens every day, probably requiring vast amounts of diplomacy on the one hand and equal amounts of molecular virology on the other... and there is some surprise that a protocol regarding sexual contact would exist? And that different protocols would exist for already familiar species?

Reading the original post and the responses to such, I wonder if anyone bothers to contemplate a question before delivering a response.

 

[DonIago]

I think it's been made pretty clear that nobody is surprised that such a protocol might exist, only that it never came up prior to this point.

And what is the point of your last statement?

 

[Prax]

The bigger issue for Kim is disobeying direct orders to the crew to not fraternize with the aliens, because of the delicate diplomatic relationship, and then disobeying direct orders personally to him to discontinue seeing her. Janeway's chief concern is maintaining the friendship with the aliens.

The Doctor on the other hand, is more concerned with Kim possibly having contracted or transmitted or virus/pathogen/disease.

 

[Akiraprise]

Reading the original post and the responses to such, I wonder if anyone bothers to contemplate a question before delivering a response.

It's a valid question. As was pointed out it should be standard Starfleet policy to be honest. Something they drill into the cadets heads in the Academy. This Robot Chicken skit pretty much sums up why.

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