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Those all definitely sound very credible. Florence Pugh as Yelena Belova has been going around as a rumor/theory pretty consistently since her being cast was announced.
I think it was Bryan Singer that called Days of Future Past an "inbetweenquel".Sidequel.
Well, all of those films are blindingly obvious except for Thor 4, Nova and the 3 separate flavors of Avengers. It strikes me as odd, though, if this is actually coming from Wardell, how that list doesn't mention Thunderbolts, when he already said that was supposed to be a trilogy and already had a cast, so really should be part of phase iv.
If they are just talking out of their backsides, though, we won't have to wait long to find out, since Far From Home is almost here anyway, and nothing prior to this has really indicated Osbourne would be part of it at all.
Better than "nyquel" I guess.
Not specifically. There is, however, the question over who has purchased the former
I'm hearing more rumors from other sources that Oscorp is in the movie, so at this point I'm expecting it's probably true.
There is no mention of a third Spider-Man movie in Wardell's list, due no doubt to it officially being a Sony property, but I'd call it a safe assumption that that is already in the works as well for Phase 4.
So we're starting to hear more and more about the MCU moving forward.
-Black Widow has started filming
-Eternals is supposed to film this fall
-Shang-Chi is supposed to film this fall
(It's pretty rare that they film 2 things at the same time like this, so we'll see if it's true.)
-Dr Strange 2 is supposed to start filming early next year
-GOTG 3 is supposed to film next year, whenever Gunn is done with Suicide Squad 2
-brand new rumors that Fantastic Four might be on the schedule for 2022
-Falcon and Winter Soldier is supposed to film this fall
-I don't think we've heard dates yet for WandaVision or Loki filming (or Hawkeye)
It's obviously still up in the air, but right now a realistic possibility seems to be that the two 2020 movies will be Black Widow and Eternals, and the three 2021 movies might be Shang-Chi, Dr Strange, and GOTG 3. The 2022 slate could include the likes of FF, Black Panther, or Captain Marvel. (It wouldn't surprise me if GOTG3 and BP2 got flipped between 2021 and 2022.) 2022 could also feature the likes of Young Avengers or Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts. Though they might want to wait another year or two to build up to those. (If they even happen.)
-Black Widow has started filming
-Eternals is supposed to film this fall
-Shang-Chi is supposed to film this fall
(It's pretty rare that they film 2 things at the same time like this, so we'll see if it's true.)
-Dr Strange 2 is supposed to start filming early next year
-GOTG 3 is supposed to film next year, whenever Gunn is done with Suicide Squad 2
-brand new rumors that Fantastic Four might be on the schedule for 2022
-Falcon and Winter Soldier is supposed to film this fall
-I don't think we've heard dates yet for WandaVision or Loki filming (or Hawkeye)
It's obviously still up in the air, but right now a realistic possibility seems to be that the two 2020 movies will be Black Widow and Eternals, and the three 2021 movies might be Shang-Chi, Dr Strange, and GOTG 3. The 2022 slate could include the likes of FF, Black Panther, or Captain Marvel. (It wouldn't surprise me if GOTG3 and BP2 got flipped between 2021 and 2022.) 2022 could also feature the likes of Young Avengers or Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts. Though they might want to wait another year or two to build up to those. (If they even happen.)
I feel that they're going to be challenged to build up the next phase now that Endgame has closed out this chapter of Marvel movies. Maybe I'm just projecting but it feels anticlimactic now especially for projects like Black Widow. I'm actually interested in some of the projects but I don't know if they'll be as big as they're predecessors were.
Is that such a bad thing? If a series keeps trying to top its huge climactic events with even huger climactic events, it cheapens them and dilutes their impact. It's better not to try -- to just focus on solid storytelling instead of desperately attempting to top yourself again and again. "Big" should not be the exclusive priority. "Good" is more important.
When I say big, I don't know that they'll be as popular and make as much money as the previous movies and will have the same cultural impact, not necessarily the presentation of the movies themselves.
I have read that they are going to concentrate on smaller arcs rather than the huge epic arc that we got before. Also, cosmic arcs and earthbound arcs will be completely separate.
The Fantastic Four rumor that I read was that it was going to be a Peyton Reed project set in the 60s. That was his pitch for a Fantastic Four movie way back for the project that eventually went to Tim Story. On one hand, I do hope that that it's true, because I've loved that pitch ever since I first heard it. On the other hand, that would probably mean no Ant-Man 3. While I would happily go see a third Scott Lang adventure in the theaters, I'm actually okay with of how all of the characters arcs wound up at the end of Endgame.
The Fantastic Four rumor that I read was that it was going to be a Peyton Reed project set in the 60s. That was his pitch for a Fantastic Four movie way back for the project that eventually went to Tim Story. On one hand, I do hope that that it's true, because I've loved that pitch ever since I first heard it. On the other hand, that would probably mean no Ant-Man 3. While I would happily go see a third Scott Lang adventure in the theaters, I'm actually okay with of how all of the characters arcs wound up at the end of Endgame.
Well if David Harbour turns out to be The Thing in Black Widow this could get interesting........
Why are some people obsessed with putting the FF in the 60s? There is nothing inherently 60s about the book or its concept, it just happened to have started in the 60s. We're not seeing Batman or Superman movies set in the late 30s, Iron man in the movies wasn't injured in Vietnam, Deadpool wasn't set in the 90s, etc., so why would the FF be in the 60s? Do people really just want to make Reed Richards into a character from Madmen or something, just so they can reference how sexist the Stan Lee run of FF was? (and it was sexist as hell, much respect to Stan Lee as a creator/comic guy but the man could not write compelling female characters, and early 60s Sue storm was especially cringey).
The only reason to set the film in the 60s is to do the whole "People in the 60s were assholes" angle, mixed with a bit of Cold War stuff. That may have been part of early FF, but it wasn't part of the concept, it was just a byproduct of the time period the book started. As soon as that stuff wasn't common in media, the book stopped doing it, and the Marvel sliding timescale eliminated any specifically 60s stuff probably by the 70s.
The only reason to set the film in the 60s is to do the whole "People in the 60s were assholes" angle, mixed with a bit of Cold War stuff. That may have been part of early FF, but it wasn't part of the concept, it was just a byproduct of the time period the book started. As soon as that stuff wasn't common in media, the book stopped doing it, and the Marvel sliding timescale eliminated any specifically 60s stuff probably by the 70s.
Plus they don't need to rely on an epic, all-consuming myth arc anymore. That was crucial back when this was a major risk involving characters mostly unknown to non-geeks. They had to build up buzz and excitement somehow. But now that they have all of their big guns back, and have the entire world hooked on their franchise, they can just sit back and tell smaller, character-driven stories. It helps them avoid sequel escalation.
And massive crossover events are notoriously difficult to pull off anyway. We're incredibly lucky that The Avengers films, Days of Future Past and the majority of the Arrowverse crossovers were as great as they are. 90% of the massive crossover events from the comics are complete shit and fucked up the stories the writers were crafting in the individual comics to boot.
And massive crossover events are notoriously difficult to pull off anyway. We're incredibly lucky that The Avengers films, Days of Future Past and the majority of the Arrowverse crossovers were as great as they are. 90% of the massive crossover events from the comics are complete shit and fucked up the stories the writers were crafting in the individual comics to boot.
Having agreed with what you wrote, a 60's-set Fantastic Four movie co-starring Agent Carter and Jarvis would be a goddamn delight. And a great way to keep those characters active in the MCU going forward. Not sure if that's the plan, though.
And I don't see why certain people have a knee-jerk negative reaction to any kind of period piece setting.
For one thing, it's a way to set it apart from the failed Fantastic Four projects that preceded it, which is something I'm sure Kevin Feige will be very anxious to do.
Additionally, it fills in missing history in the timeline of the MCU. Any chance to see further adventures of the likes of Peggy Carter or Dum Dum Dugan or Howard Stark and Jarvis can never be a bad thing in my book.
Furthermore, it gives it a visually distinctive look that separates it from the rest of the product of the MCU and other superhero franchises. With so much superhero and comic book related product hitting the screens, it's a good thing to do something that makes your movie stand out from the rest.
And finally, I can die happy if I see a live-action rendition of Ben Grimm wearing a Beatles wig.
For one thing, it's a way to set it apart from the failed Fantastic Four projects that preceded it, which is something I'm sure Kevin Feige will be very anxious to do.
Additionally, it fills in missing history in the timeline of the MCU. Any chance to see further adventures of the likes of Peggy Carter or Dum Dum Dugan or Howard Stark and Jarvis can never be a bad thing in my book.
Furthermore, it gives it a visually distinctive look that separates it from the rest of the product of the MCU and other superhero franchises. With so much superhero and comic book related product hitting the screens, it's a good thing to do something that makes your movie stand out from the rest.
And finally, I can die happy if I see a live-action rendition of Ben Grimm wearing a Beatles wig.
I'm not dying for a '60s set FF movie, but if they do decide to go that route it would be a nice way to make it stand out from the rest of the MCU.
If they include Cassie as Stature in the Young Avengers movie, I could see Scott popping up in a cameo or supporting role.