A non-canon comic co-written by Kurtzman. Which is why it has a bit of weight.
Sure they could decide to make it Romulus' home star, I would actually prefer if they did that.
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Sure they could decide to make it Romulus' home star, I would actually prefer if they did that.
They won't.
It's weird - I've only seen this clip in this form, somebody filming it with their phone, but it's obviously being played on a web browser. Why has the source video not been posted yet anywhere?Not sure if its been posted. Here is the video clip from which we saw the first "official" Picard pic:
Edit: Lol, I guess it's been posted couple days ago.
The video in the post I quoted was on Youtube, and I just attempted a search on Youtube, and they're all the same video of someone filming the clip with their phone.
Remember that time the Klingon moon blew up and it smashed the Excelsior, which was on it's way back to earth and nowhere near Klingon space on the other side of the neutral zone?
The technicalities didn't matter. The repercussions for the characters did.
It didn't. Marcus wanted to do that, but Kirk resisted on ethical grounds, even though they were Klingons (and Khan's people inside). That's not condoning, in my book. It's the opposite.
Condemn not condone!
Exactly. Watch how easily non-canon material can become canon if the showrunner so chooses (because he originally wrote the non-canon stuff).
Yes, that was stupid back then. No, this doesn't excuse it now, especially when it's so much more stupid.
Also, back then, it followed an important storytelling rule: The more impact an event has, the better it needs to be explained.
All the subspace shockwave did was break a coffee cup. Apart from that - the movie would have played out exactly the same if they just saw the explosion through a telescope. But ship shaking is a more dramatic opening. It WAS Kronos moon after all, and that was the only real lasting effect, and that one was well thought out.
But because that shockwave was a detail that had no impact, no body care that it was scientifically bunk.
But just imagine, of the subspace shockwave suddenly completely destroyed Earth? People would flip their shit! How the fuck that's even possible, and that it makes no fucking sense for such a large scale event to ever happen this way! Even though the bunk science would be the same.
Well. The same holds true for Romulus. If it were just a minor bit, people wouldn't take the science so serious. But having the biggest, universe-changing event happen so completely randomly for such utterly ducking stupid, inconsistent crap reasons, does affect story immersion.
Destroying Romulus, Vulkan and killing Amanda were (imo) cheap hacks to give the characters some emotional baggage and motivations and shock the fans at the same time. Obviously, because the characters themselves started at point 0 in the Star Trek reboot, we needed some steroids to give them motivation. It certainly worked out for the movie. But just like the durgs, once they wear off, the feeling is emptiness.
In the same way as the Kirk/Spock/Kahn relationships felt forced and they tried way too hard. Aimed at fans (because who else would have understood the references) but finally nothing more than parody.
Destroying Praxis on the other hand had geopolitical repercussions that structured the movie and the Federation/Klingon relationship for years to come. It never felt like a cheap trick. At least not to me.
In the same way as the Kirk/Spock/Kahn relationships felt forced and they tried way too hard. Aimed at fans (because who else would have understood the references) but finally nothing more than parody.
Destroying Praxis on the other hand had geopolitical repercussions that structured the movie and the Federation/Klingon relationship for years to come. It never felt like a cheap trick. At least not to me.
I would agree insofar as to destroying Vulcan and killing Amanda. "Kill your darlings" is an effective story technique, but IMO it didn't work really, because it felt too much like the typical superhero-origin story, and the fact none of these happened in the original - but then this didn't really turn into an alternate either, but more a new skinned reboot - muddied the waters even more.
But as for Romulus? It was meant to give a justification for Nero's backstory. But I think at that time they didn't anticipate any emotional reaction by the audience at all. It's all an alternate future backstory, that in the event of the movie itself never really happened anyway.
It's the exact same backstory of VOY's Captain Braxton from "relativity". A guy from the future, mad about something that hasn't even happened yet.
And you know what? That works. That's a nice backstory for a villain in SF, because it introduces a neat high-concept spin. I just don't get why they are SO caught up in it that they even load that baggage onto their new series that have nothing to do with any of that? Let the reboots and the continuations stand on their own! Why limit your audiences to only those that are intimately familiar with both of them?
They can please some of the fans, some of the time but they will never please all the fans all of the time
It was an internal CBS presentation to investors. They don't typically make those things public. So technically that video is a "leak". The only thing officially released is the name of the show and the logo: https://twitter.com/StarTrek/status/1128774612735614976
Oops! Condemn + drone = Condone, if you read too fast.Condemn not condone!
I also noticed that while it was still a bit obscured, the ensign’s commbadge does not look like the one from AGT/Visitor/Endgame.
I have a feeling that anything from those episodes’ future scenes will not be referenced in STP.
It's definitely not the same uniform, but is inspired by it:
So STP draws inspiration from previous shows but is not a direct copy. I have no problems with that. The only questions remains: What style will Worf be when he has a cameo?
A 10-part series would be the ideal time to squeeze in a 5-minute wall of technobabble which will presumably make the magic boom-boom okay to people who need more than it just being a magic boom-boom.
Which would still be less than ideal... but necessary if they chose to continue the way they do.
Like, IF they decide to address the Hobus supernova - I dearly hope they put more thought into it than last time, and have a reason for it happening, plus directly address the consequences, and not just a line of dialogue saying "oh yeah, that happened, now to something completely different".
If they do that, I'll be perfectly fine with it...
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