Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

[Discofan]

I don't see why Spock needs to take that oath (that he'll never talk of his sister again) given that he never told anything about himself to Kirk to whom he was close, not about his parents, not about his Pon Far, Not about his Brother!! I mean I don't know anyone more secretive than this guy. He wouldn't have told about Michael to Kirk unless there was a vital need for Kirk to know about her and why would there be???

 

[Alan Roi]

I don't see why Spock needs to take that oath (that he'll never talk of his sister again) given that he never told anything about himself to Kirk to whom he was close, not about his parents, not about his Pon Far, Not about his Brother!! I mean I don't know anyone more secretive than this guy. He wouldn't have told about Michael to Kirk unless there was a vital need for Kirk to know about her and why would there be???

The recommendation wasn't really for him, it was for all those pesky humans who can't keep their traps shut.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I couldn't stop laughing when Chancellor L'Rell ordered, "DESTROY EVERYTHING!"

 

[ITDUDE]

I couldn't stop laughing when Chancellor L'Rell ordered, "DESTROY EVERYTHING!"

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Pew pew pew today is a good day to die pew pew pew

 

[Borgminister]

What an amazing conclusion to a largely successful season two, especially given the creative differences at the outset that necessitated a shakeup at show-runner position, and apparently an abandonment of a potentially very interesting God versus Science angle. I remember being intrigued by Pike's biblical references and religious upbringing, by his referring to himself as being "provincial". I'll always wonder what might have been...

But the show did recover in my opinion, delivering a highly entertaining story with astounding special effects, top-notch production values, mostly excellent directing and refreshing camaraderie among the crew. The writing was rather straightforward and ordinary, and lacked the aforementioned promising juxtaposition between faith and knowledge, which I so loved about DS9 and the wormhole aliens, nonlinear time, etc. aspect. But classic Trek tenets of inclusiveness, family, bravery, loss, needs of the many, etc., were all there and covered, and emotionally satisfying, and that excuses a lot about the lack of complexity or "high concept" ideas and debate.

Random:
--Loved that "can't defy the basic laws of physics so--NO" quip, sort of the anti-Scotty response and great reaction shot by Burnham. "Get off my ass--SIR!" Hope the character returns...
--Pau sideways eyeblink--cool! Star Wars-ish repair bots--not so much!
--I noticed that Peck the actor had trouble with the Vulcan salute...
--Number One SMOLDERS and is such a smart ass... Me likey!
--Control: "Women stop talking!"
--Tilly and beer...
--Spock voice over toward the end was almost pitch-perfect delivery.

Okay, rounding up has to be a 10, especially given what could have gone horribly wrong after the creative shakeup to kick off the season. Let's hope the team adds a few writers who can create a more mentally fascinating and novel story line for season 3. 950 years in the future from a time where warp speed and molecular disassembly and reassembly are possible is going to pose a real challenge I hope Kurzmann and company are up to.

 

[Alan Roi]

Spock wasn't the first Vulcan in Starfleet, but other than that, mostly accurate.

I hear they're also working on a show about a descendant of the first Martian colonists, the best friend of a being who claims to be omnipotent and became obsessed with him. Life-long friend to the only sentient android in Starfleet, who then sacrificed their life for him. Commander of said android's dead girlfriend whose alternate-timeline counterpart traveled to the past to give birth to a Romulan who attempted to invade Vulcan before being thwarted by famed Ambassador Spock. Whom both Spock and Sarek chose to mind-meld with instead of each other. Chosen as a representation of all of humanity and love interest to the genocidal Borg Queen. Who was inadvertently responsible for the deaths of over 10 thousand, but given command of not one but two consecutive flagships to the entire Federation, personally represented the Federation in 27 separate first-contact incidents, and was hand-picked by the leader of the entire Klingon Empire to officiate his successor.

And that's just a sample of one page of his resume.

 

[SJGardner]

And that's just a sample of one page of his resume.

I've just imagined Janeway and Tuvok's discussion of that security report from Survival Instinct that would somehow still work perfectly in this context too:
Tuvok: "There is a second page to the report."
Janeway: "Well, some of these incidents are a little more serious, but on balance, I still think we did the right thing."
Tuvok: "There is a third page."

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

--Control: "Women stop talking!"

At least somebody said "WOMEN!"

 

[SJGardner]

At least somebody said "WOMEN!"

Oh my god... it all started with Spock, years ago. Spock was Control all along. And he's still at large.

 

[seigezunt]

They had a golden opportunity there. He should have said "feeeeeeemales"

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

They had a golden opportunity there. He should have said "feeeeeeemales"

Hyoomon Feeeeemales?

 

[SJGardner]

Hyoomon Feeeeemales?

For some reason I'm imagining Quark and Rom in a TMP-style wormhole now.
Rom: "Broooooootheeeeeer.... weeeeeeeeee're iiiiiiiiin trooooooobleeeeeeeee..."

 

[Kemaiku]

For some reason I'm imagining Quark and Rom in a TMP-style wormhole now.
Rom: "Broooooootheeeeeer.... weeeeeeeeee're iiiiiiiiin trooooooobleeeeeeeee..."

Hmm, wonder if that did happen to the ones that went through the Barzan wormhole.

 

[SJGardner]

Hmm, wonder if that did happen to the ones that went through the Barzan wormhole.

I'm dreading the day we learn in Season 3 that the moment Kol and Arridor disappeared into the wormhole in Voyager, it got rerouted to the 32nd century Beta Quadrant...

 

[Kemaiku]

I'm dreading the day we learn in Season 3 that the moment Kol and Arridor disappeared into the wormhole in Voyager, it got rerouted to the 32nd century Beta Quadrant...

Nah, they already turned up in Voyager didn't they?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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I love the part where L'Rell starts laughing and she says "And I thought my Chancellorship would be bloodless!"

 

[SJGardner]

Nah, they already turned up in Voyager didn't they?

Yes, that's when they disappear as they are fleeing Voyager. They try some technobabble to block Voyager's transporter signals, but it destabilizes the whole wormhole, and both of its end points start to jump erratically all over space and time so that Voyager can't get home through it.

 

[Kemaiku]

Yes, that's when they disappear as they are fleeing Voyager. They try some technobabble to block Voyager's transporter signals, but it destabilizes the whole wormhole, and both of its end points start to jump erratically all over space and time so that Voyager can't get home through it.

Oh. Please no more Ferengi...

 

[SJGardner]

Oh. Please no more Ferengi...

Saying this as someone who enjoyed DS9's Ferengi episodes (with the exception of Profit and Lace; that was too much even for me)... if there were a petition calling for no Ferengi at all in Discovery, I'd use every login available for me to sign it as many times as possible.

 

[seigezunt]

Oh. Please no more Ferengi...

But imagine the opportunities to redesign their look!