BADASS!!!!!!
Ummm...If that's what you think. I think there were a lot of potentially interesting and exciting ways to tell the story of why, for example, the spore drive project appears to have become unviable and abandoned in 10 years' time, but if you'd rather it be quarantined in the distant future while everyone collectively agrees to just not mention it again, sure.
There are suggestions/implications that the writing staff had their hand forced by internet commentators. That's ridiculous, anything the writers include in the show is their own choice. Kurtzman has been talking since the season premiered about how he's interesting in addressing perceived issues regarding canon, there's no reason not to assume that he made that decision personally, without being somehow harangued by fans. That the solution seems to have turned out to be awkward and unsatisfying to many/some is not the fault of random nobodies on YouTube or forums, it's down to the writing staff who came up with that solution.
I bet we will for sure.
Up until the last 3 weeks, I thought it was ridiculous too, and made strong posts to that very point.
Now, I not only think it's possible, but that it's actually highly likely.
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I assumed it was the broken hull of one of the ships in CONTROL's Armada.I didn't understand that either. If Leland was defeated, (and actually aboard the damn ship) why did they still need to go through time?
I also asked out loud what Spock and Burnham had landed on.
Who said it was going to do that? I saw nothing from official sources.Despite the hype that this episode would explain why Discovery was abandoned in that Short Trek episode, it did nothing of the sort...
Hey, good catch. Interestingly, the subtitles simply say, "I'm giving you the conn," but the dialogue absolutely says, "I'm giving you the conn, Una."
So there we have it. Number has a (first) name.
Hype from fans I meant.Who said it was going to do that? I saw nothing from official sources.
The only "hype' that was said in, was the fan base theories.Despite the hype that this episode would explain why Discovery was abandoned in that Short Trek episode, it did nothing of the sort...
(from the Cage)
Number One: Offspring as in he's Adam. Is that it?
Vina: You're no better choice. They'd have more luck crossing him with a computer.
Keeper: Each of the two new specimens has qualities in her favour. The female you call Number One has the superior mind and would produce highly intelligent children. Although she seems to lack emotion, this is largely a pretense.
At least that bizarre theory of Cornwell becoming Lethe was literally blown into space.
Those looked like straight nacelle struts to me in the closing bit, bringing the discoprise closer to TOS. Explains the conflicting images from earlier in the year. More Eaglemoss models on the way![]()
Up until the last 3 weeks, I thought it was ridiculous too, and made strong posts to that very point.
Now, I not only think it's possible, but that it's actually highly likely.
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Hype from fans I meant.
Exactly what DaveyNY said. I openly speculated about it tying into "Calypso" but I said the entire time I might be wrong. I don't think I'd consider that "hype".The only "hype' that was said in, was the fan base theories.
NO one from the production ever indicated that.
The Keeper outright said Number One would produce "highly intelligent children" in their own right. This wasn't a comparison to Colt.I don't see where this indicates that she has super-smarts. Not at all. Compared to Colt, she has the superior mind, which honestly doesn't seem like a huge feat.
Her lack of emotion is a pretense, which means she puts on a professional exterior, not that she is a frigging trained Kolinharu.
The complaints about "continuity police" and such in this topic are unfair. Yes, some people get hung up on continuity, but when the writers put really dorky lines like "no holograms ever again" and "let's never mention Discovery ever again", I really don't think that's what continuity fans are advocating for.
What changed your mind? I agree that the lines about the holographic comms and the end of the finale seem very hastily thrown in and give the impression of being there to appease perceived canon violations, but again, I think it's probably something of a stretch to blame that on viewers who've been watching and reacting to the show as it airs.
Even if Kurtzman was spurred on after reading critiques that focused heavily on continuity, when the scripts end up having disappointing aspects, it's surely down to the people writing those scripts. I'm not sure when this season was written, but given how long Mount says it took to film, it must have been more than enough time ago for the writers to come up with more in depth solutions to these questions since they chose to make answering them a priority.
Despite the hype that this episode would explain why Discovery was abandoned in that Short Trek episode, it did nothing of the sort...
The Keeper outright said Number One would produce "highly intelligent children" in their own right. This wasn't a comparison to Colt.
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