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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x13 - "Such Sweet Sorrow"

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Disagree, I think all these moments were very worthwhile.. and I’d rather have them in the first part so that the second part can focus on progressing the story and action more...

It was way too heavy handed.
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Just curious......

Pike's wink when he said "what mirror universe?"
I can't remember.... Did Michael or anyone else fill him in, or did he already know about the mirror universe through a Starfleet briefing or something. I can't recall if someone from Disco's crew told him....
 
I do wonder how folks are going to react if Kurtzman and company press a massive reset button after going on for two years that the show was "Prime"?

Generally I am of the mind that it's not so much what they do but how they do it in terms of storyline. If it's done well then all is forgiven. If done shabbily then it won't be.

I will say, that having the penultimate episode of the season be so maudlin is more than a little disheartening. I pray they don't try and squeeze a cliffhanger out of this as that would be disappointing.
 
Just curious......

Pike's wink when he said "what mirror universe?"
I can't remember.... Did Michael or anyone else fill him in, or did he already know about the mirror universe through a Starfleet briefing or something. I can't recall if someone from Disco's crew told him....

We just got a vague statement in the first episode where Pike stated that he knew all about the previous Captain, and the breach in trust. I guess Pike was informed about all of the details.
 
Just curious......

Pike's wink when he said "what mirror universe?"
I can't remember.... Did Michael or anyone else fill him in, or did he already know about the mirror universe through a Starfleet briefing or something. I can't recall if someone from Disco's crew told him....
It means he learned about it sometime between his briefing on Lorca and that moment. What I ESPECIALLY enjoyed is that we did NOT have to endure a lengthy scene of exposition where Pike learns of it. His comment is all that was necessary.
 
We just got a vague statement in the first episode where Pike stated that he knew all about the previous Captain, and the breach in trust. I guess Pike was informed about all of the details.

But there was no hint of "my Georgiou" when Pike talked about knowing her from the Academy.

Y'know, even a scene where Burnham says to Pike "there's something you need to know about 'Captain' Georgiou", then fade to the next scene would've been good for me.
 
But there was no hint of "my Georgiou" when Pike talked about knowing her from the Academy.

Y'know, even a scene where Burnham says to Pike "there's something you need to know about 'Captain' Georgiou", then fade to the next scene would've been good for me.
And that's exactly the kind of thing I am very happy they did NOT do. There are 8760 hours in a year. Plenty of time for almost all the "hey...how come he/she/it knows that...we didn't see the moment when he/she/it learned of x,y,z... to occur offscreen.
 
And that's exactly the kind of thing I am very happy they did NOT do. There are 8760 hours in a year. Plenty of time for almost all the "hey...how come he/she/it knows that...we didn't see the moment when he/she/it learned of x,y,z... to occur offscreen.

That's a recipe for bad storytelling.
 
But there was no hint of "my Georgiou" when Pike talked about knowing her from the Academy.

Y'know, even a scene where Burnham says to Pike "there's something you need to know about 'Captain' Georgiou", then fade to the next scene would've been good for me.
I think we got that when Georgiou first appeared and Pike commented that she seemed a lot different from her academy days, he brought that fact up to , Burham and she replied, "That's a longer conversation..." But also did promise to tell him at some point, which I assume happened because he did respond to her at that time with "Okay but don't make me come looking for you about the information."

Bottom line I think Burnham told him at some point offscreen; and as for mirror Georgiou referring to the mirror universe; I would guess she got that info from the library computer of the USS Defiant who's the records she must have read a number of times.
 
We just got a vague statement in the first episode where Pike stated that he knew all about the previous Captain, and the breach in trust. I guess Pike was informed about all of the details.

A good possibility.

It means he learned about it sometime between his briefing on Lorca and that moment. What I ESPECIALLY enjoyed is that we did NOT have to endure a lengthy scene of exposition where Pike learns of it. His comment is all that was necessary.

That I totally agree with.
 
But there was no hint of "my Georgiou" when Pike talked about knowing her from the Academy.

Y'know, even a scene where Burnham says to Pike "there's something you need to know about 'Captain' Georgiou", then fade to the next scene would've been good for me.

Actually now that you mention it, I remember a "what are you not telling me Burnham" line from Pike, where she responds that it would be a conversation for another time.
 
I think we got that when Georgiou first appeared and Pike commented that she seemed a lot different from her academy days, he brought that fact up to , Burham and she replied, "That's a longer conversation..." But also did promise to tell him at some point, which I assume happened because he did respond to her at that time with "Okay but don't make me come looking for you about the information."

Actually now that you mention it, I remember a "what are you not telling me Burnham" line from Pike, where she responds that it would be a conversation for another time.

I'd forgotten about that line too, so I suppose we could take that as an indicator of an unseen conversation. That's about the length (5 seconds?) I would've given to a later line from Burnham, so clearly not a big sacrifice of time.
 
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