USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

I think the way the windows are angled on the set make the saucer rim about the only place it could go.

 

Yeah, probably that. Like I said after the original post, I think that particular image is from below, which may give it the illusion of straight pylons from that distance.

 

Just fixed the link. Here it is again. The windows below the bridge maybe angled differently on the outside, but I am sure its them. They are the right size and they make the most internal sense to the show. Imagine that he interior angle is an in-universe design choice.



The three circular lights at the front of the ship would be two stories high if they were windows.

 

I don't know, the round ones on the front seem to be only a bit taller than the tooth shaped ones

 

This is not "proof, "but ...

The windows on DSC are far smaller, and my best guess is there are only two. Plus, again, why would the designers imagine that the briefing room that the captain and senior officers use is that far from the bridge. Just makes more sense, I think.

 

I think it's a lot more reasonable to simply take this as a visual retcon than to assume they made such a major change over and over and over, just to fit with updated visuals, only to go back to outdated ones.

No, actually the two aren't mutually-exclusive. Relics, Tribbles and Mirror Darkly were quite obviously a bone thrown to the old fans. That doesn't preclude a visual reboot down the line. In fact, you can have both coexist.

 

I can understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree.
You think the TOS bridge was taller because of the 4:3 television format, and the nuTOS bridge now has to be flatter because of the 16:9 format.

But! The TOS movies bridges kept the same width-to-height ratio from the television show, despite also being shot for ~16:9 screen. And the bridge looked beautifully framed.

The dimensions of the room don't really correlate with the dimension of the frames - that always depends on how you position the camera. The room looks like the room. And in this case, the DISCO-prise looks notably flatter than the TOS and the TOS movies bridge. There is no right or wrong - this is aesthetics. But I do believe a bridge room with taller walls would have looked even better. At least for me.

 

The Discovery Connie is 160 meters longer than the length those blueprints are using, so it wouldn't be the same height, or layout.

 

I hope not. I'm hoping they get away from the fanwank for a while in season three.

 

Again, that wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about what fans will or will not accept. Someone mentioned that the reason why CBS changed everything was because fans wouldn't accept a TOS aesthetic, and I argued the contrary.

 

I said modern fans/New fans, not the old ones who grew up with it.

The casuals as well.

 

Ok, sure. But that might mean there might be even more decks at the edge of the saucer in the Discoprise. Making the three white circles even bigger. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but I think the briefing room is on "Deck 2."

 

The windows don't work for that. They're round, just like the ones in front, it clear from the way they're shaped and angled on the set that they intended it to be there.

 

Also, those are fan blueprints and not the originals by Franz Joseph Schnaubelt, which put sensors there. Star Trek V put a lounge there, and that Enterprise didn't have any windows on the saucer front

 

As I said in my other posts, it's fiction and each fan is free to interpret it as s/he sees fit. For all we know a refit is as simple as a voice command and the bridge automatically reconfiguring itself.

Quite a few things in Star Trek don't actually make sense as it is anyway, being a fictional show.

You're free to pretend they were always the same. I'm not stopping you. It does seem however there are a lot of replies to my posts trying to insist their point of view is the correct one, whereas I didn't even involve you, @Tuskin38 or anyone else until they started replying to my posts and telling me why my posts were supposedly incorrect and theirs are "a lot more reasonable" (whatever that means in a fictional show with magical crystals among other things) or whatever.

 

Probably supposed to be, because it makes little sense for your officers to have to go to the edge of a saucer for a briefing. Though someone definitely didn't communicate that to the design team.

 

TOS has been accepted since the '60's, and will be more fondly remembered by hardcore and casual fan alike long after DSC has been put to pasture. You severely underestimate TOS's staying power, as has CBS.

It's no different from the original Star Wars trilogy versus the crap they're making now.

 

They're 25% different now.

Seriously....In my opinion, Star Trek is one thing. TNG is another. DS9 is another. Etc. The ones after TOS (even TAS, to a certain extent) are not Star Trek. They are versions of Star Trek.

The people who have been making Discovery did not set out to make Star Trek. They set out to make a version of Star Trek called Star Trek: Discovery. To put it more finely, they did not set out to make more of Star Trek, only set earlier than the Kirk era. If they had, then everything would have matched up neatly, from the look to the storylines and everything else. They set out to make a version of Star Trek set in that period of time.

From a standpoint of being true to your intentions and following through accordingly, come what may, they should not have caved one iota to what fans of TOS have wanted. But, business concerns dictate a lot of what is done.

It's up to the individual to decide if compromises and mixtures are better than cancellation and nothing at all, when it comes to viewing choices.

 

Tamara Deverell, the designer of the new Enterprise's interior, speaks.