The more I look at it, the more it feels like an evolution of the NX01 Enterprise bridge.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Maybe they'll get rid of the second door if/when they lift the bridge out of the B/C deck teardrop (or, I guess, the A/B deck teardrop, now), and they don't need corridor access since the bridge will stand alone.
Damn that is one gorgeous bridge. I had to pause and rewind the teaser a few times just to take it all in. One thing I was pleasantly surprised by was just how little they changed the Captain's chair. I was so happy they didn't give us another weird, curvy chair like in the JJ films. Lol
It's actually another turbolift.
The framing and lighting match the one on the right almost exactly.
Plus it probably leads to the bathroom, eh?
That's not canon. It was never seen onscreen.
Well, how about now? Ship doesn't look different to me.
Much as the exterior of the ship, an appealing blend of TOS, movie, and DSC styles!
Still, there are obviously a ton of TOS details in there too, as @Tuskin38's highlighting of several demonstrates. I very much would call it respectful of the original!
As recounted by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens in The Art Of Star Trek (1995, pg. 46), "Gene Roddenberry explained that a second set of doors was added in response to all the viewers who had written in to ask 'What do they do if the doors get stuck?'" This echoed a statement of regret about the original bridge that David Gerrold ascribed to Roddenberry: "Well, yes, we did make mistakes. There were things that worked and things that didn’t work, and if we were ever to do STAR TREK again, we would make improvements in those areas. The one elevator to the bridge was a mistake, and no emergency exit in sight. Yes, we would correct that."
Of course, the reason for placing it where they did in TAS, as opposed to the twin rear-tube arrangement in the films (the gap between which ever widened as stations got swapped around), was purely a matter of pragmatics. As layout artist Robert Kline explained, it was done that way so as to enable characters to exit off the bridge by simply walking forward out of frame, without having to turn around (because that would require additional animation).
So the saucer is one big module, the bridge is a smaller module nested inside, and this itself comprises 'pie-wedges' that can be re-jigged and swapped around as necessary—just as the TOS and movie sets actually did in real life, built with "all sections wild" (i.e., removable) to accommodate different camera setups and redresses, etc. Nice that the the DSC bridge, like those of STIV-VI, emphasizes the bulkheads between the segments for us!
-MMoM
Agreed. I expected as much based on the comments of concept illustrator Ryan Dening: "I would also like to add that I tend to keep very closely to the movies, as opposed to the 1960’s series, especially The Undiscovered Country, which is as advanced as they could get. The Enterprise really, before the movies, is a bunch of cardboard sets."
Still, there are obviously a ton of TOS details in there too, as @Tuskin38's highlighting of several demonstrates. I very much would call it respectful of the original!
TAS added a second turbolift (on the opposite side, forward) that hadn't been there in TOS:
As recounted by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens in The Art Of Star Trek (1995, pg. 46), "Gene Roddenberry explained that a second set of doors was added in response to all the viewers who had written in to ask 'What do they do if the doors get stuck?'" This echoed a statement of regret about the original bridge that David Gerrold ascribed to Roddenberry: "Well, yes, we did make mistakes. There were things that worked and things that didn’t work, and if we were ever to do STAR TREK again, we would make improvements in those areas. The one elevator to the bridge was a mistake, and no emergency exit in sight. Yes, we would correct that."
Of course, the reason for placing it where they did in TAS, as opposed to the twin rear-tube arrangement in the films (the gap between which ever widened as stations got swapped around), was purely a matter of pragmatics. As layout artist Robert Kline explained, it was done that way so as to enable characters to exit off the bridge by simply walking forward out of frame, without having to turn around (because that would require additional animation).
So the saucer is one big module, the bridge is a smaller module nested inside, and this itself comprises 'pie-wedges' that can be re-jigged and swapped around as necessary—just as the TOS and movie sets actually did in real life, built with "all sections wild" (i.e., removable) to accommodate different camera setups and redresses, etc. Nice that the the DSC bridge, like those of STIV-VI, emphasizes the bulkheads between the segments for us!
But lighting that shines directly into one's eyes is, like, totally cannnnnon and stuff! In TOS, it often seemed that no matter how diffuse everything else in the room was, the eye-lighting always remained:
-MMoM
That's a pretty nice update!
The one thing I wish they kept was the additional row of over-head monitors above the stations, with the funky pictures of space and graphics. They gave the bridge a nice height, whereas the new version looks pretty flat. Also the open corridor going around is weird.
Apart from that - really well done! One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how much it has the right size. It's obviously bigger than the TOS one. But it doesn't look as empty as the Discovery bridge. Really, the size and level of detailed it is filled with is pretty much perfect. And I love all the little nuggets (colorful buttons, weird handles) - and especially the magnificient original sound design!
That's all really well done. I DO wonder if we'll see a Cpt. Pike series. Seems like way too much effort for a one-off design.
No wonder they upped the size from 289m to 340m.. They needed to fit that Yuuuge bridge! 
like mentioned above, wish they kept the above station graphics, or atleast make them screens.. and the "Hallway" just seems out of place.. proably where the never before seen "ready room" was in Tos .. But in all, I like it, wish it wasn't "Christmas Vacation" level of lighting!
like mentioned above, wish they kept the above station graphics, or atleast make them screens.. and the "Hallway" just seems out of place.. proably where the never before seen "ready room" was in Tos .. But in all, I like it, wish it wasn't "Christmas Vacation" level of lighting!
The hallway leads to the bathroom.. with the 3 sea shells..
No wonder they upped the size from 289m to 340m.. They needed to fit that Yuuuge bridge!
like mentioned above, wish they kept the above station graphics, or atleast make them screens.. and the "Hallway" just seems out of place.. proably where the never before seen "ready room" was in Tos .. But in all, I like it, wish it wasn't "Christmas Vacation" level of lighting!
Just to be anal about that - the original size of the TOS Enterprise was never, ever confirmed anywhere in canon. In fact - it doesn't make a lot sense, since it wouldn't fit two decks in the saucer (which the Enterprise clearly has).
An upscaled TOS Enterprise (~450m - 500m) also works way better as a bridge between the NX-01 and the Enterprise-C (with their "regular" size numbers). Otherwise the 1701 would barely be any larger than the NX-01, but completely dwarfed by the Ent-C. Upscaling all the TOS era ships fits much, much better "inbetween" them. With the Excelsior being almost as long as the Ent-C, just not as wide and tall. Instead of being completely dwarfed next to her, despite her bridge module, windows and all other size indicators being too small to house a single human.
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Its much better, its nice when everything actually fits.
What I like about this Enterprise is that it feels like it's an update version. I gotta admit as much as I love the JJPrise, This one is definitely growing on me.
The display on the left has the angled pylons, the disply in the center has straight pylons, the display on the right looks like it has straight pylons.
Still an absolute beauty of a bridge.
Isn't that what the Enterprise graphical area is?
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