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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x11 - "Perpetual Infinity"

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It's misdirection. Control used Borg-like technology to take over Leland--nothing more. Control has shown itself to be more powerful than the Collective (otherwise it wouldn't have been able to destroy the Borg in the future, would it?) and Leland is more powerful than any drone.

We've seen a possible future. There is no indication Control beat the Borg. Heck, Control may have never confronted the Borg if it was needed for its creation.
 
I wouldn't go that far. I have every expectation that with Michael Chabon and Patrick Stewart involved, the Picard series that's in development will more than justify its existence.

I don't know. They way they've been talking, it looks like the Picard series is going to be one PC clusterf*%*.
 
Certainly you know that Sir Patrick is a card-carrying bleeding-heart liberal, which is just one more reason to love him.

i'm european - to me he's a slightly conservative centrist

obama was to the right of merkel, and she's supossed to be conservative

bernie sanders would be called a right wing social democrat with the word union tattooed on his forehead here
 
In the alternate future glimpses we got of the 2390s and early 25th century in the Berman Era the uniforms changed and Starfleet technology had also begun a rapid transformation, right down to the warp scale being recalibrated yet again so that a starship could actually travel safely at Warp 15.

Even if this were no longer Rick Berman's Trek I'd expect some significant changes to the way Starfleet and the Federation look 20 years after the events of NEM. If there are a lot of recognizable designs that'd be awesome but I'm not going to expect a visual rehash of the 25th century sequences of "Endgame, Parts I and II(VOY)."
 
I wouldn't go that far. I have every expectation that with Michael Chabon and Patrick Stewart involved, the Picard series that's in development will more than justify its existence.
Then you and I will disagree on this point. I do not believe Star Trek has done enough to justify its existence post-Abrams Trek.
 
Then you and I will disagree on this point. I do not believe Star Trek has done enough to justify its existence post-Abrams Trek.
I don't think Chabon would have gone into this without a good plan. I'm really looking forward to this, and as with Calypso. I'm expecting nothing but to be surprised (and Calypso most will agree, was a surprise)
 
Pike is getting plenty of screen time even in the back half of the season. The problem is though he's kind of being written as being so laid back he's kind of a pushover now. It's not even really like it's because he has to be the second to Burnham's first. It's like the whole cast technobabbles a solution and he's basically "sure, whatever, sounds good, carry on."

He's a good character, but being a shitty captain.
Excuse me, how he could be better? To ignore specialists? To hear his own inner voice only, like Lorca did? Pike made his own decision to delete Sphera's data and after that invited his officers to discuss a solution because he is not a scientist and not a philosopher. Of course warlord like Lorca (oh yes, I like him!) would act more firmly... but he doesn't care about losses. Captain tries to keep his crew safe as it possible.
By the way, captain Pike is only one who didn't forget the goal of the mission: find out the origin of the red signals. I suppose this information is a key.
 
Excuse me, how he could be better? To ignore specialists? To hear his own inner voice only, like Lorca did? Pike made his own decision to delete Sphera's data and after that invited his officers to discuss a solution because he is not a scientist and not a philosopher. Of course warlord like Lorca (oh yes, I like him!) would act more firmly... but he doesn't care about losses. Captain tries to keep his crew safe as it possible.
By the way, captain Pike is only one who didn't forget the goal of the mission: find out the origin of the red signals. I suppose this information is a key.

Lorca seemed to keep his initial losses low during the war (not counting Prime Lorca's loss of Buran. Lorca's highest ranking loss was probably Ellen "I'll be waiting for you in stupid-people-heaven, Connolly." Landry, but again, it wasn't a fault of his own. Lorca seems to view his crew more like investments and assets vs people he cares about, with one certain exception, but that just means he protects them in a different way.

Pike does tend to allow chaos in the bridge and if he kept that lack of discipline up, eventually it would cause damage to his ship, in my opinion. He is a very different captain from others we've seen. Talking back to other previously shown starfleet captains would have been a very bad idea. Not saying he's a bad captain, just different.
 


But was not the Klingon war that almost destroyed great part of the fleet IIRC on the final of the S1???? ... how is this possibly???

Even 200 ships is a big number for a large range fleet... and we only see the Discovery nearby....
7000 ships on Starfleet?? ...some numbers doesn't fit for me.

Now... I've started to feel boring with the all S31 thriller on the show... please go back to blodly explore strange new worlds and new civilizations, where no one has gone before.
 
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MU Lorca kept his crew alive for expediency, not because he cared in the slightest.

Pike on the other hand is the complete opposite.
He keeps his crew alive precisely because he cares.
 
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