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News Van Sprang: Leland, AI And The Borg
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This pretty much made my week.
While it never made much sense to me, that theory apparently originated with the Great Bird himself, according to Michael and Denise Okuda in their Star Trek Chronology, revised 1996, page 23: "Following production of 'Q Who?' (TNG), Gene Roddenberry half jokingly speculated that the planet encountered by Voyager [VI] might have been the Borg homeworld."
You are not wrong. According to Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens in a TrekMovie.com interview dated 22 September 2007: "Well we pitched this story to have Alice Krige back as a Starfleet medical technician who made contact with the Borg from Season 2 [ENT: 'Regeneration'] and we would see the birth of the Borg Queen."
-MMoM
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While it never made much sense to me, that theory apparently originated with the Great Bird himself, according to Michael and Denise Okuda in their Star Trek Chronology, revised 1996, page 23: "Following production of 'Q Who?' (TNG), Gene Roddenberry half jokingly speculated that the planet encountered by Voyager [VI] might have been the Borg homeworld."
You are not wrong. According to Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens in a TrekMovie.com interview dated 22 September 2007: "Well we pitched this story to have Alice Krige back as a Starfleet medical technician who made contact with the Borg from Season 2 [ENT: "Regeneration"] and we would see the birth of the Borg Queen."
-MMoM
Both are really bad ideas.
I’d be fine if Destiny was invalidated, actually. I really disliked that trilogy.
I’d still prefer that this is not a Borg origin story, but nor do I think that it is.
Nothing involving the Borg at this point sound like very good ideas.
IF there's a Borg arc this season, I think it's all about the difference between a biological-dependent Borg vs. an all-artificial Borg that has no need for biological lifeforms. If traditional Borg sentience & evolution consists of humanoid minds in a hive mind, then having the sphere data could make the biological component unnecessary altogether, opening the door for galactic extermination.
We saw from Zora that assimilation is not a prerequisite for evolving & improving oneself, so destroying sentient life would be an option for a Borgy Control. Regarding the chronology you brought up, don't forget that Discovery is a ship that can go anywhere in space and time in the blink of an eye, so everything is on the table. Mrs. Burnham also brought up a temporal storm, Calypso seems to start out in a storm, and who knows how unpredictable temporal storms can be.
But if it's something different altogether, that works for me.
I can't wait until the season is over just so we don't have to endlessly speculate about the Borg. It seems like every fifth post on the subreddit is "BORG?!?!"
I'll just say that I think Van Sprang did a great job making Leland seem sincere and not altogether a bad guy even while he did some rather questionable things. His humanity isn't so much in the lines as in his reading of them.
I'll just say that I think Van Sprang did a great job making Leland seem sincere and not altogether a bad guy even while he did some rather questionable things. His humanity isn't so much in the lines as in his reading of them.
Who are you and what have you done with T'Bonz? Have you met us?
It's a good thing this show doesn't treat time travel, and travel across insane distances really casually.
Oh wait.
Read Destiny, the novel trilogy about the Borg finally having enough of the Federation and deciding to annihilate it.
It's a good thing they don't base their plots on Trek novels.
Oh wait.
They just assimilated Leland in the latest episode.
I think them doing Borg Origins is a terrible idea, but I've enjoyed season 2 so far. I don't think it'll ruin it.
At the most, I think it'll turn out to be fallout from "Regeneration." I can see Section 31 (and others) combing that wreckage for technology to exploit, and then losing control* of it.
*Sorry, unintended. :/
I certainly hope the obviousness of the nanites thing means no Borg in DSC.
When the Borg reawaken in the year 2153 in Enterprise, they send a signal to their homeworld in the Delta quadrant. Why would they do that if their origin was still yet to happen? (And in the Alpha quadrant no less.)
When the Borg reawaken in the year 2153 in Enterprise, they send a signal to their homeworld in the Delta quadrant. Why would they do that if their origin was still yet to happen? (And in the Alpha quadrant no less.)
That could easily be rewritten, all Control needs is a human quality. So, I say Mama Burnham ends up somehow merging with Control when they are in the deep, dark past. The merging drives her insane and she becomes the first Borg Queen.
This season finished filming at Christmas. The fact that van Sprang still doesn't know if it's related to the Borg confirms there is no Borg arc this season. And since a Control-Borg origin story depends on the current time travel arc, I doubt there will be one next season either, because recent interviews indicate that the first 2 season's arcs will be fully closed.
He refers to both the past and present. He first thought of it when he first read the script, and he still doesn't know. "We’re as much in the dark as anybody else."
Surprised this isn't getting more flack. I understand keeping certain actors unaware of certain twists (Mark Hamill being the only one that was told about the ESB twist comes to mind) but for the whole cast to be in the dark about the story for the entire season seems a little extreme!
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