How will season 2 end?

[ITDUDE]

Fuck I hope not.

In ENT they already existed in 22nd century. So hopefully the writers remember that and leave the Borg the F*** alone (and no, time travel is not allowed.... Rrrrr)

 

[BillJ]

Mount has made a public deal about looking for work again.

Quality actor. I don't think he'll have much trouble finding a job.

 

[Jadeb]

You know, what you describe here is exactly what I think they'll do at the end of the season. Seems unnecessarily convoluted to go to all those lengths just to make a couple of guys on the internet happy, but I wouldn't put it past them at all to come up with this idea and patting themselves on their backs for how brilliant they think it all is.

It does seem a little fannish, but the show has always been rather fannish, from starting with a Klingon war to Burnham being Spock's sister to the long trip to the MU to the arrival of the Enterprise. This season we've gotten Pike, Number One, the search for Spock and Section 31. So I won't be shocked if we end up with something like this. Hopefully they have something more elegant in mind.

If Burnham's history is rewritten and the whole show "reset" to satisfy a few pesky gatekeepers, I'll be rightly pissed. The show needs to develop its own identity and stick with it.

Of course, all the behind-the-scenes changes isn't making it easier for the show to develop its own identity.

It's possible they're folding to the fans but it could also be the new showrunners wanting to jettison the stuff they never really cared about and clean the slate of story elements that have run their course. Personally, I wouldn't mind if we saw the end of Obi Wan Sarek and Ash Tyler's overly convoluted backstory.

 

[BillJ]

If Burnham's history is rewritten and the whole show "reset" to satisfy a few pesky gatekeepers, I'll be rightly pissed. The show needs to develop its own identity and stick with it.

Of course, all the behind-the-scenes changes isn't making it easier for the show to develop its own identity.

For folks who are major fans of the show, I hope they don't pull out some massive reset button for the last two years. It would be really inconsiderate of the creative staff (whether new or not) to pull the rug out from under the people who have spent the last couple of years supporting their vision of what Discovery is.

Me? I'll chug along. Continuing to treat the show as its own timeline and take on Star Trek.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Me? I'll chug along. Continuing to treat the show as its own timeline and take on Star Trek.

That's how I view every series. I take it on its own, regardless if it references the previous shows or not.

 

[Roald]

Child Burnham's conspicuous fascination with the supernova, followed by Stamets' comment about needing the power of a supernova, makes me think Burnham's timeline is going to be rewritten. They'll use that power source to save her parents during the Klingon attack, explaining Peck's comment that this is the only season the Spock story can be told -- she'll never become Spock's sister. That will fulfill the pledge to explain why Spock never spoke of her and tidy up the canon. And the happy reunion of Burnham and her parents will produce the fan-satisfying tears we've been promised.

I also wonder if the Discovery isn't hanging out in the future in Calypso to rescue Burnham's mom. It's been left to wait for her to arrive, suitless, after being sucked into that space cloud thing. Onboard is the equipment she needs to effect repairs. So we don't get a permanent time jump for the ship and its crew -- season 3 continues on, with the storyline slightly rebooted, in the same time period, using the same expensive sets. Only now Starfleet doesn't use holograms because everyone's seen how dangerous they are when misused by the AI.

Wow, i think you’re gonna be about 95% correct with this!

 

[BillJ]

I'm still not wrapping my head around how holograms are dangerous? They are there a few years later in "The Practical Joker" (TAS).

 

[ITDUDE]

I'm still not wrapping my head around how holograms are dangerous? They are there a few years later in "The Practical Joker" (TAS).

TNG couldn't find a Holodeck that they couldn't break (or make on purpose deadly)

 

[DaveyNY]

I'm still not wrapping my head around how holograms are dangerous? They are there a few years later in "The Practical Joker" (TAS).

It's probably in some way connected to the amount of data being transmitted and can be easily spied upon? (intercepted)

 

[BillJ]

It's probably in some way connected to the amount of data being transmitted and can be easily spied upon?

I don't know why there wouldn't be encryption like with any other communication? Certain things feel like they are just being pulled out of the writers collective ass with no real care whether it makes sense or not. And the holograms are a big one. Kurtzman was there from the beginning and fine with using them in the TOS timeframe, just live with the decision. Don't make it worse by trying to overwrite it with something stupid.

 

[Jadeb]

I'm still not wrapping my head around how holograms are dangerous? They are there a few years later in "The Practical Joker" (TAS).

The risk of impersonation, as Control did with dead Admiral Patar, lets the writers explain away why holograms aren't used for communication in the Trekverse. Though I'm not sure why screen communication would be safer -- that could be faked as well.

 

[BillJ]

The risk of impersonation, as Control did with dead Admiral Patar, lets the writers explain away why holograms aren't used for communication in the Trekverse. Though I'm not sure why screen communication would be safer -- that could be faked as well.

But they already broke that in the space station episode. Where the waves of something or another gave away it was a hologram.

 

[eschaton]

But they already broke that in the space station episode. Where the waves of something or another gave away it was a hologram.

Ultraviolet. Another mistake by the scriptwriters, because Saru's dialogue implies that when people get agitated, their faces heat up and give off ultraviolet light. The writers meant infrared.

Never mind that even with Saru's visual acuity, there's no reason for either transmissions to include spectra humans can't see or Discovery's monitors to show it. And it's a strange oversight for Control to make if it's part of the transmission data.

 

[DaveyNY]

Well, Control was able to fool everybody with it's holographic interpretation of Spock killing the medical folks.
There was no obvious telltale waver or glitches to see.

 

[Kemaiku]

Ultraviolet. Another mistake by the scriptwriters, because Saru's dialogue implies that when people get agitated, their faces heat up and give off ultraviolet light. The writers meant infrared.

Never mind that even with Saru's visual acuity, there's no reason for either trasmissions to include spectra humans can't see or Discovery's monitors to show it. And it's a strange oversight for Control to make if it's part of the transmission data.

Makes sense, they depicted the largest type of star as a tiny red one in season 1. They have this seasonal obligation to completely reverse what they mean in important scenes.

 

[XCV330]

Ultraviolet. Another mistake by the scriptwriters, because Saru's dialogue implies that when people get agitated, their faces heat up and give off ultraviolet light. The writers meant infrared.

Never mind that even with Saru's visual acuity, there's no reason for either trasmissions to include spectra humans can't see or Discovery's monitors to show it. And it's a strange oversight for Control to make if it's part of the transmission data.

Unless something specific to Vulcan body chemistry, some sweat chemical etc causes a higher display of UV. It's a stretch, yeah. they meant IR, but i like the idea better. it would explain why a non-perfect Control did not know to look for that.

 

[BillJ]

Well, Control was able to fool everybody with it's holographic interpretation of Spock killing the medical folks.
There was no obvious telltale waver or glitches to see.

There was. It was Cornwell who applied something or another to the video to clear Spock.

 

[DaveyNY]

There was. It was Cornwell who applied something or another to the video to clear Spock.

Only after Pike and several others convinced her to look a whole lot closer.

 

[Roald]

Only after Pike and several others convinced her to look a whole lot closer.

They didn’t notice anything strange in Patars communication, only when Burnham found the long dead Patar did they dug further.

 

[BillJ]

Cornwell obviously noticed Patar wasn't acting normally. Which is why they went there to begin with.