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How will season 2 end?

How will season 2 end?

  • USS Enterprise saves the day

    Votes: 15 13.8%
  • USS Discovery is send to another time

    Votes: 43 39.4%
  • Burnham is erased from time/dies

    Votes: 9 8.3%
  • Dr. Pulaski crawls out of the turbolift shaft and yells at Picard

    Votes: 19 17.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 23 21.1%

  • Total voters
    109
Time dilation does exist in the Trekverse, given the concept was shown on a classroom board in DS9 when Keiko was teaching children on the station.

I'm pretty sure though that in practice, Starfleet vessels cannot approach the speed of light, only exceed it. IIRC the maximum speed ever listed for impulse was 0.5 c, which would have minimal time dilation. Warp drives travel faster than light, but through subspace, where time dilation isn't really a concern.
Given how advanced they are, I bet they can exceed 0.5c. They intentionally might not exceed that to avoid time dilation. But, it seems like given their technology, they should be able to do so if they wanted.
 
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About the end of series 2 though. Perhaps some temporal accident (possibly involving the angel suit) pulls a number of the crew through time. Pike and co know roughly where they will appear, but not when. Discovery is abandoned and left to hold position there to await their arrival.

Slight amendment. It's specifically just Dr. Burnham that it's left to pick up.
 
Now I'm starting to wonder if we could possibly be witnessing the genesis of the Borg.

What if the AI were somehow sent back in time a few hundred years, without the sphere data? Maybe...70000 light years away?
 
I'm going to go wild. I think reality itself likely gets warped and that's where we pick up season 3. With maybe the characters remembering what happen and trying to undo it.

My more reasonable theory is that they have to send the Discovery forward in time or hide it so Zora can be fully formed.
Then Dr. Burnham can reach the ship and jump back. The sphere data will ultimately be gone and consumed by that point so Control can't get it and Discovery get's a new computer system/crew member. With either Michael or Saru as captain. Prior to this I think everyone gets evacuated to the Enterprise and that's where we see the bridge, etc.
 
Child Burnham's conspicuous fascination with the supernova, followed by Stamets' comment about needing the power of a supernova, makes me think Burnham's timeline is going to be rewritten. They'll use that power source to save her parents during the Klingon attack, explaining Peck's comment that this is the only season the Spock story can be told -- she'll never become Spock's sister. That will fulfill the pledge to explain why Spock never spoke of her and tidy up the canon. And the happy reunion of Burnham and her parents will produce the fan-satisfying tears we've been promised.

I also wonder if the Discovery isn't hanging out in the future in Calypso to rescue Burnham's mom. It's been left to wait for her to arrive, suitless, after being sucked into that space cloud thing. Onboard is the equipment she needs to effect repairs. So we don't get a permanent time jump for the ship and its crew -- season 3 continues on, with the storyline slightly rebooted, in the same time period, using the same expensive sets. Only now Starfleet doesn't use holograms because everyone's seen how dangerous they are when misused by the AI.
 
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Child Burnham's conspicuous fascination with the supernova, followed by Stamets' comment about needing the power of a supernova, makes me think Burnham's timeline is going to be rewritten. They'll use that power source to save her parents during the Klingon attack, explaining Peck's comment that this is the only season the Spock story can be told -- she'll never become Spock's sister. That will fulfill the pledge to explain why Spock never spoke of her and tidy up the canon. And the happy reunion of Burnham and her parents will produce the fan-satisfying tears we've been promised.

I also wonder if the Discovery isn't hanging out in the future in Calypso to rescue Burnham's mom. It's been left to wait for her to arrive, suitless, after being sucked into that space cloud thing. So we don't get a permanent time jump for the ship and its crew -- season 3 continues on, with the storyline slightly rebooted, in the same time period, using the same expensive sets. Only now Starfleet doesn't use holograms because everyone's seen how dangerous they are when misused by the AI.

The only logic issue I have with this theory is if Burnham was raised by her own parents and not Sarek/Amanda, would she have started the Klingon War back in The Vulcan Hello? And if not, Prime Georgiou wouldn't have died and there would have been no journey to the mirror universe (at least not with Burnham as part of the crew).
 
And if not, Prime Georgiou wouldn't have died and there would have been no journey to the mirror universe (at least not with Burnham as part of the crew).

Georgiou never dies and is the one heading up Section 31. The Space Hitler thing never sat right with me.

I do think if they hit the massive reset button, then it is time to admit none of this was "Prime".
 
The only logic issue I have with this theory is if Burnham was raised by her own parents and not Sarek/Amanda, would she have started the Klingon War back in The Vulcan Hello? And if not, Prime Georgiou wouldn't have died and there would have been no journey to the mirror universe (at least not with Burnham as part of the crew).

Also, what would it mean for Lorca? Is ReguLorca the captain of the Discovery? I can't say I'd be opposed to having Isaacs back.

It does seem like a lot to explain, but, at the same time, it would be less radical than completely changing the setting/time period/premise of the show. I could imagine a Burnham monologue wrapping things up by explaining that things were different, but not that different, and that the "savage power of time" had ensured that events had unfolded similarly to how they had before. Convoluted, maybe, but they already set the stage for it with the Momma Burnham stuff we got last night.
 
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After last night, I can't help but wonder if the decision to evacuate Discovery - and perhaps it sitting abandoned in a nebula for 1,000 years as seen in Calupso - are related to the Sphere data.

After all, the episode established the data could not be deleted, and they are concerned if it's moved anywhere else Control will get its claws on it. It's safer to destroy the ship outright, or to jump the ship forward in time 1,000 years in time (analogous to what was planned with the Red Angel suit) but I suppose leaving it abandoned would get the job done as well, albeit in an anticlimactic way.
 
I wonder if season 3 of Disovery is set on the U.S.S. Enterprise with Spock and Pike, so we don't need that Pike spin-off after all...

They've already confirmed Mount isn't in Discovery next season. So either he's getting a spinoff show or he's just gone.

Considering the Enterprise set is apparently constructed out of higher-quality materials than Discovery's, I'm guessing the former.
 
If they do end up wiping the last 2 seasons, Memory-Alpha is going to be in chaos.

More than usual.
It went through that with Kelvin Verse.
Nothing could be as bad as Wookiepedia when the vast bulk of its articles suddenly became "legends" or whatever the hell they are calling it now (gave up)
I wonder if season 3 of Disovery is set on the U.S.S. Enterprise with Spock and Pike, so we don't need that Pike spin-off after all...
Mount has made a public deal about looking for work again.
 
Child Burnham's conspicuous fascination with the supernova, followed by Stamets' comment about needing the power of a supernova, makes me think Burnham's timeline is going to be rewritten. They'll use that power source to save her parents during the Klingon attack, explaining Peck's comment that this is the only season the Spock story can be told -- she'll never become Spock's sister. That will fulfill the pledge to explain why Spock never spoke of her and tidy up the canon. And the happy reunion of Burnham and her parents will produce the fan-satisfying tears we've been promised.

I also wonder if the Discovery isn't hanging out in the future in Calypso to rescue Burnham's mom. It's been left to wait for her to arrive, suitless, after being sucked into that space cloud thing. Onboard is the equipment she needs to effect repairs. So we don't get a permanent time jump for the ship and its crew -- season 3 continues on, with the storyline slightly rebooted, in the same time period, using the same expensive sets. Only now Starfleet doesn't use holograms because everyone's seen how dangerous they are when misused by the AI.
Also, what would it mean for Lorca? Is ReguLorca the captain of the Discovery? I can't say I'd be opposed to having Isaacs back.

It does seem like a lot to explain, but, at the same time, it would be less radical than completely changing the setting/time period/premise of the show. I could imagine a Burnham monologue wrapping things up by explaining that things were different, but not that different, and that the "savage power of time" had ensured that events had unfolded similarly to how they had before. Convoluted, maybe, but they already set the stage for it with the Momma Burnham stuff we got last night.
You know, what you describe here is exactly what I think they'll do at the end of the season. Seems unnecessarily convoluted to go to all those lengths just to make a couple of guys on the internet happy, but I wouldn't put it past them at all to come up with this idea and patting themselves on their backs for how brilliant they think it all is.
 
If they do end up wiping the last 2 seasons, Memory-Alpha is going to be in chaos.

More than usual.
And Bobby Ewing will have struck again...
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And I'll be oh-so-pissed!
Didn't like it then, won't now.
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You know, what you describe here is exactly what I think they'll do at the end of the season. Seems unnecessarily convoluted to go to all those lengths just to make a couple of guys on the internet happy, but I wouldn't put it past them at all to come up with this idea and patting themselves on their backs for how brilliant they think it all is.

If Burnham's history is rewritten and the whole show "reset" to satisfy a few pesky gatekeepers, I'll be rightly pissed. The show needs to develop its own identity and stick with it.

Of course, all the behind-the-scenes changes isn't making it easier for the show to develop its own identity.
 
They've already confirmed Mount isn't in Discovery next season. So either he's getting a spinoff show or he's just gone.

Considering the Enterprise set is apparently constructed out of higher-quality materials than Discovery's, I'm guessing the former.
I'm hoping that he's just pulling everybody's leg like he did recently in his Twitter account.
 
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