How will season 2 end?

[SpocksOddSocks]

Oh, the episode was great. Waiting 6 months for the second part of any two-parter?

For me (in the UK), it was only a week... albeit 3 years later than in the US.

Series 3 was the last one the BBC got first run rights to before it went over to Sky TV. However, they did pay extra just to get part 2 so they didn't have finish their first UK run rights on a cliffhanger.


About the end of series 2 though. Perhaps some temporal accident (possibly involving the angel suit) pulls a number of the crew through time. Pike and co know roughly where they will appear, but not when. Discovery is abandoned and left to hold position there to await their arrival.

 

[SJGardner]

I'd rather they don't end it with a canon-realignment-inducing reset button. It would feel so much like a cop-out to appease the loudest canon purists that I don't see any good way to build it up as a natural conclusion to the storyline. Seriously, this just reminds me of all the 'fixes' proposed by those people who claim to offer constructive criticism when they're actually just listing their very specific criteria for the kind of show they'd like to run and the kinds of invasive surgeries they think need to be performed on this one so that it could be squeezed into that rigid box.

I can see the crew being stranded in the future and the ship abandoned and ordered to wait for them, but I don't think it's necessary permanent. It could also serve as a basis of a Season 3 storyline about them looking for the way home, especially if the future is a dystopian one that they think needs to be averted.

 

[eschaton]

Last season, when it was unveiled that the Spore Drive could jump between alternate universes, I thought it was a cool idea if Discovery very briefly ended up in a universe where everything looked TOS-like in terms of aesthetics, someone made a comment that "nope, this is the wrong place" and they kept on sliding through. Of course one could interpret the scene to mean they weren't in the prime universe to begin with, but it would be a nice little love letter to fans - which is all the TOS revival episodes like Relics and Trials and Tribble-ations were supposed to be.

I do not, however, look kindly upon the idea they're considering resetting the timeline wholesale, rather than just moving between alternate universes. Even if you presume plot armor protects the main cast members - that they retain their memories and identities (a must I think, because they wouldn't be thrown together without the Klingon War in season 1) you'd still be leaving behind the relationships with a host of secondary characters, and potentially invalidating all of their actions in the first two seasons. From a dramatic standpoint, it's a terrible choice.

Of course, one could argue if they jump the crew 1,000 years in the future much the same thing ends up happening. It's so far in the future that any impact of their earlier actions is basically lost to the sands of time. And everyone else they now is dead. It would be a bold move.

 

[SG-17]

Small retcons to modernize or fix things is fine, expected, and frankly should be done regularly.

Big shit, namely the existence of the-better-than-transwarp Spore Drive and Section 31 being a fairly public organization are my two biggest "whats?" that I want to see addressed. The existence of the V'draysh is something that needs (and I expect will be) addressed.

Spock having a sister he never talked about has always been "fixed" by the mere existence of fucking Sybok. The Klingons getting a terrible redesign is whatever, we've already seen Romulans be given brow ridges and Klingons given forehead ridges (and then gotten an explanation for the change) so thats not an issue. That Klingon War from the first season is a bigger sticking point because of how close the Federation came to defeat, its weird that is has never been mentioned but I guess it doesn't break continuity, just heavily bend it.

Frankly as well something happening like Control becoming the origin of the Borg I'd be fine with.



And too be honest I don't like prequels as a concept. I think its just creatively bankrupt to do prequels like this, especially when you have to dodge canonasteroids. Its why I am actually looking forward to the Picard series because it will be a proper sequel. Star Trek should always be moving forward in my opinion.

 

[zar]

Spock having a sister he never talked about has always been "fixed" by the mere existence of fucking Sybok.

To be fair, that's not a "fix" because one could say Sybok was the same "problem". The real explanation for Spock's lack of openness, about both Sybok and Michael, is the existence of fucking Spock. I think the question Discovery's writers want to answer is, why is Spock so fucking Spock?

 

[BillJ]

I think the question Discovery's writers want to answer is, why is Spock so fucking Spock?

There's simply no answer that is going to satisfy people. It is part of the problem with these kinds of stories, especially when all the creators are dead and in the ground.

Though I believe it was a question that had already been answered in TOS and TAS. For ones that paid attention.

 

[ITDUDE]

Discovery jumps to the future and the crew abandon ship just as it explodes. Their escape pods and picked up by the Enterprise E ( now 25% different looking). Captain Data (b4 and now also Burham's half brother - which will be explained in season 3) hails them and tells them that they need go save the universe from the Borg (an evolved version of control) and are helped by Section 31 who secretly want to take back control of....control.

Just plausible enough that I wouldn't bet against it...

 

[ITDUDE]

Spoiler

I thought 10 years? But either way YOU WILL SEE IT VERY SHORTLY. So I wouldn't waste time arguing on it as I am sure you won't apologize after it airs anyway

And what happens if we don't see it? Will you apologize?

 

[zar]

There's simply no answer that is going to satisfy people.

Okay.

 

[ITDUDE]

My idea is they find themselves in the Kelvinverse replacing the versions of themselves in that universe who are all living very different lives, yet they still have their memories. That universe also has Georgiou so we get to see a third version of the character in season 3. Maybe it's also forward in the future as well and we get to see Captain Sulu played by John Choi. He is our new Captain for season 3. That or we see another version of Lorca or maybe Prime Lorca has also found himself their as well.

And Kelvinverse has it's own MU, let's call it KMU with John Cho with a goatee. And all four universes collide together and everyone has a grand old time. PMU Georgiou takes takes control of KMU Enterprise which looks a like like Prime TOS enterprise, and Prime Lorca kills Kelvin Lorca, but KMU Lorca kills someone or something... all confused now....

Oh and I am not making it all up. Pure evil i tell you!!

 

[ITDUDE]

Resets are fine for wanky fanfiction, but I don't really want anything like that happening on the actual show.

Worked well for Year of Hell. Now just take that and apply it to a whole series

 

[Tuskin38]

Worked well for Year of Hell. Now just take that and apply it to a whole series

No thank you.

 

[ITDUDE]

No thank you.

But imagine the bitching and moaning for years to come. TATV was bad, very bad. I'm still not over it 14 years later. Imagine if they actually did it, snapped a whole tv show out of existence..

 

[DaveyNY]

I wish we had a DISLIKE button.

 

[XCV330]

I actually think Discovery might fail and the Controil future comes to pass, at least in part.

 

[XCV330]

That's cool but I promise they did. Anywho....

Its rare that anyone has a life goal of being a wet blanket.
but then future guy wasn't appreciated in his season, either.

 

[DaveyNY]

I actually think Discovery might fail and the Control future comes to pass, at least in part.

That's probably what Season-3 will address.
Not thrilled with that with what I know at this point, but perhaps They will pull something off in the last episodes that will change my mind.

 

[Terok Nor]

I don't like prequels as a concept. I think its just creatively bankrupt to do prequels like this, especially when you have to dodge canonasteroids. Its why I am actually looking forward to the Picard series because it will be a proper sequel. Star Trek should always be moving forward in my opinion.

I agree. I've never liked prequels. Occasionally, they're good (Rogue One) but a whole series set in the past of Star Trek has never been something I've wanted to see. Enterprise is an okay show but most of what was done could've been done on one of the other spin offs. With Discovery, it looks so different that most of what's been done should have been done on the other spin offs or something set after them.

That said, the interim between Star Trek 6 and TNG would have made a better setting for a prequel whilst still being a sequel to TOS. Why it was decided to go back 10 years before the very iconic and very 1960s TOS to do a dark and gritty very 2010s prequel is beyond me. That's just asking for trouble.

 

[XCV330]

That said, the interim between Star Trek 6 and TNG would have made a better setting for a prequel whilst still being a sequel to TOS.

I feel like that Lost Era is being kept like guarded real estate. It's the most pristine area of Trek for expansion. Everyone knows it but everyone is afraid to build on it because there is only one chance to do it.

 

[ITDUDE]

I feel like that Lost Era is being kept like guarded real estate. It's the most pristine area of Trek for expansion. Everyone knows it but everyone is afraid to build on it because there is only one chance to do it.

Enterpise-B adventures, Enterprise-C adventures, Stargazer adventures. And these are only ships we know about. Definitely a lot of stuff to work with.