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Supergirl - Season Four

My only question is about Lex and his getting powers. Wasn't Lena's cure something that didn't give powers? That she removed that?
 
Yeah, Lex just casually walking into Kara's apartment and revealing that he knew her identity was pretty shocking. And Eve knows too! How long has she known?

I don't think Lex knows that Superman is Clark Kent, or he would've long ago had a sniper fire a kryptonite bullet through Clark's apartment window while he was sleeping, or something. Superman is his anathema whom he's dedicated to destroying, so he wouldn't just casually let him lead his life if he knew is identity. He probably doesn't see Supergirl as a threat in the same way, because it's not as personal a vendetta.

As for how he could know Supergirl's identity and not Superman's, it's probably because Supergirl has been rather more casual about exposing her identity. A lot of folks at the DEO knew who she was, and Lex would've had ways of finding it out.

Or, wait, better idea: Maybe Eve had James's office bugged and found out at some point when Kara and James were having a private conversation there.
 
It wasn't meant to be a nuclear missile, just a conventional one. But yeah, it probably would've left more of a crater than that.

And yes, when Red Daughter put on a brunette wig and called herself Linda Lee, I murmured, "They finally found a way to work that in." Man, Benoist looks totally different that way.

I know, but couldn't miss the opportunity for a Star Trek IV reference.

I don't think Lex knows that Superman is Clark Kent, or he would've long ago had a sniper fire a kryptonite bullet through Clark's apartment window while he was sleeping, or something. Superman is his anathema whom he's dedicated to destroying, so he wouldn't just casually let him lead his life if he knew is identity. He probably doesn't see Supergirl as a threat in the same way, because it's not as personal a vendetta.

I think this version of Lex doesn't want to kill Clark, he wants to kill Superman.

I.e. Why he wouldn't just put Kryptonite in Kara's yogurt.
 
That would have been a great addition to the character building in this episode. We know he once tortured James (and as noted yesterday, I would like to know more about the "why" of that), but we don't know much about his days as a villain, save for the red sun incident.
We know from dialogue back in season two that he caused an earthquake in California, a la Hackman's version.
 
Lena looks at Kara like a friend, but Lex looks at Komrad Kara like a daughter, but the Luthors are almost the same age.
No, as usual Lex sees her as a tool he can use and is using the psychological approach he feels works best to get the desired results he wants from her.

Ans yes, IMO this take on Lex Luthor (including John Cryer's performance) is on of the best done for either TV or Film (animated or otherwise).

The one thing that left me scratching my head though is: If Lex now has comparable superpowers to Superman/Supergirl outside of his suit (as shown in this episode, what else is he waiting for? IE - Why isn't he going directly after either of them now, himself?
 
The one thing that left me scratching my head though is: If Lex now has comparable superpowers to Superman/Supergirl outside of his suit (as shown in this episode, what else is he waiting for? IE - Why isn't he going directly after either of them now, himself?

Given that he transfused the Harun'el into Snowbird/Red Daughter (Matrix Supergirl?), I wonder if he even still has the powers.
 
Given that he transfused the Harun'el into Snowbird/Red Daughter (Matrix Supergirl?), I wonder if he even still has the powers.
He seemed to be giving her a blood transfusion from himself (I guess to provide her with "The Cure" as he didn't seem to procure a second 'proper dose' from lena as he left). I don't see how a blood transfusion would rob him of the powers he obtained from Lena's serum.
 
According to the recaps and information I have read online, Lex intentionally gave himself powers with the intention of transferring them to Red Daughter and curing her, meaning that he is now powerless again, at least for the time being.
 
According to the recaps and information I have read online, Lex intentionally gave himself powers with the intention of transferring them to Red Daughter and curing her, meaning that he is now powerless again, at least for the time being.

Hopefully they address this--Lex having powers is not Lex. His power is his intellect. I think it would be awesome to see him go toe to toe with Brainy.
 
He seemed to be giving her a blood transfusion from himself (I guess to provide her with "The Cure" as he didn't seem to procure a second 'proper dose' from lena as he left). I don't see how a blood transfusion would rob him of the powers he obtained from Lena's serum.

Yeah, but the "blood" looked pure black. We're talking about a fantasy substance here, so there's no telling how it might work. From what he was saying about being Philip to her Alexander, it seems that Lex still considers himself mortal. If he still had superpowers of his own, would he need to invest his hopes in his "daughter" as the one to bring about his envisioned future?
 
According to the recaps and information I have read online, Lex intentionally gave himself powers with the intention of transferring them to Red Daughter and curing her, meaning that he is now powerless again, at least for the time being.

What is not explained is how the powers would be temporary, since Luthor made no attempt to remove the enhancement properties from the formula. In fact, the only thing he did was allow Lena to think that the formula she was giving to James only had curative properties.
 
No, as usual Lex sees her as a tool he can use and is using the psychological approach he feels works best to get the desired results he wants from her.

Ans yes, IMO this take on Lex Luthor (including John Cryer's performance) is on of the best done for either TV or Film (animated or otherwise).

The one thing that left me scratching my head though is: If Lex now has comparable superpowers to Superman/Supergirl outside of his suit (as shown in this episode, what else is he waiting for? IE - Why isn't he going directly after either of them now, himself?

I have looked my kid in the eyes numerous times, and told her, I only had you because I was sick of washing the dishes... Which is something i heard an adult say when I was young and washing their dishes.

Yes, I heard Lena and Jimmy say that Lex uses people, but there were moments during rearing that Alien girl, that it seemed like he was just enjoying being a parent, and Luthor briefly/momentarily forgot about his nefariousness scheme.

No, as usual Lex sees her as a tool he can use and is using the psychological approach he feels works best to get the desired results he wants from her.

Ans yes, IMO this take on Lex Luthor (including John Cryer's performance) is on of the best done for either TV or Film (animated or otherwise).

The one thing that left me scratching my head though is: If Lex now has comparable superpowers to Superman/Supergirl outside of his suit (as shown in this episode, what else is he waiting for? IE - Why isn't he going directly after either of them now, himself?

Lex Luthor knows that Clark Kent is Superman.

Killing Clark Kent, or destroying Clark by killing Lois is super easy so long as the happy couple think that his secret identity is intact.

Lex wants to prove that he is right, and Superman is wrong, as publicly as possible, so every-person knows that Lex Luthor is right, and Superman is wrong.

Alternatively, there was a comic, a while back, where Luthor says to Superman that he doesn't kill Clark Kent, because he is in love with Lois Lane, and doesn't want to hurt her... Although I do think he still thought that killing Superman was fine, because of some kind of Loophole. Clearly, the man is insane.
 
I don't think Lex knows that Superman is Clark Kent, or he would've long ago had a sniper fire a kryptonite bullet through Clark's apartment window while he was sleeping, or something.
Yeah, that is 100% NOT how a Lex Luthor do. He doesn't want to kill Superman, he wants to beat him. Prove that he's better. It's entirely about ego and perception.
 
Working for the current one for over two years now. :shrug:

Well, that is smoke and mirrors--the President can say whatever he likes, but the courts have proven that he just can't enforce decrees that go against the Constitution.

As for Lex's unwillingness to kill Clark Kent, it wouldn't further his agenda to do so. He wants to end the alien threat to Earth and, as we saw a couple of episodes ago, attacking a Kryptonian defender of the planet publicly has the effect of increasing support for alien refugees.

Brilliant couple of episodes. This is the best portrayal of Lex since Smallville, and perhaps even better. I loved how Lex is controlling and manipulating things behind the scenes.

The relationship that Lex has with the Kara duplicate is one of the most disturbing things we've seen in the Berlanti shows so far. The similarities between Lex's behavior toward Kara2 bears remarkable similarities to how a pedophile or sexual predator would "groom" a child or young adult. Caring and gentle on one hand, but domineering and controlling on the other leaving the victim both enthralled and submissive. Very creepy.
 
Jimmy and Lena in a room together years before they hooked up, while he was probably with Lucy?

Jimmy and Lena did hook up during the trial, and Jimmy cheated on Lucy with Lena, before he cheated on Lucy with Kara.

Jimmy is a piece of shit.
 
Well, that is smoke and mirrors--the President can say whatever he likes, but the courts have proven that he just can't enforce decrees that go against the Constitution.
Nah, it's more than that, and that doesn't cut it. Sometimes it takes time for unconstitutional things that the President does to get dealt with. Sometimes, they're never dealt with.

I was speaking to what standard of behavior we aspire to hold our President to, despite the fact that we don't always agree on what constitutes adherence to that standard.

If Presidents never fell short of that standard, we wouldn't even need checks and balances at all. And, if the courts could always effectively check misbehavior by government officials, then there wouldn't be a need for Congress to have impeachment power.

In the context of the show it was certainly the case that Marsdin behaved unconstitutionally until it came out that she was an alien. If that hadn't been discovered, she (likely) would have gotten away with it.
 
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