???? Superman hardly ever wins by punching his way through something. His victories are mostly won by other means, either by intellect or wits.
Supergirl - Season Four
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That has always been a very poor handling of Superman and I appreciated when we got back to him punching things.
Doomsday
Darkseid
Lobo
Giant Robots
Parasite
And so on.
There's a reason that Lex Luthor is his greatest foe and it's not because of punching.
Yes, because he makes monsters for Superman to punch. In various continuities this included: Bizarro, Metallo, Doomsday, Superboy, Giant Robots, Mecha-Suits, Parasite, and more.
He also does have a few battle suits.
I think it is you that has a poor understanding of the character and what makes him an endurable icon.
Just because he punches things, which makes for exciting action, doesn't mean that this is the way to resolve a problem. Most of the best stories of Superman involve a physical conflict of some sort, but require Superman to use his brains to resolve the conflict.
Grant Morrison's run on the the New 52, and his All Star Superman, showed an incredible insight as to what makes Superman great.
There was like two decades in the middle of the 20th century where DC was afraid to put violence in their superhero comics because the were afraid that Irl congress was going to step in and smite them.
I know what makes Superman great.
That doesn't mean I can't appreciate a fight between Superman and a giant robot.
That doesn't mean I can't appreciate a fight between Superman and a giant robot.
I think we all read the stories for the action, the desperate moments when Superman saves the day. All I'm saying is that it is very rare when he saves the day through brute force alone. What makes him great is not his power level. One of the things Byrne did well was to reduce his power level after COIE to emphasize that. The only major story that I can recall off the top of my head that had Superman winning just by beating up on his opponent was The Death of Superman.
Most of Superman's rogue's gallery can't fight him on a physical level.
"Sports Master" for **cks sake.
"Sports Master" for **cks sake.
There's no contradiction between being a strong fighter and being a compassionate protector. The true purpose of strength is to protect and support others, not to destroy or dominate, and not merely to satisfy one's own ego or pride. As Oliver Queen said in Crisis on Earth-X, "It's the duty of the strong to protect the weak." Compassion is not the opposite of strength; on the contrary, it requires strength to take care of others and shoulder their burdens. That's what Superman represents, what superheroes as a whole represent.
And why Supergirl's TV incarnation has adopted the slogan/motto/creed of "Hope, help, and compassion for all".
I'm glad someone realized that maybe Superman should fight aliens and gods rather than people like Bloodsport.
Right; until this show, I have never seen Kara portrayed as this innocent, meek or mild mannered. She has always been the more Kryptonian of the two; often times introduced as a rebellious teenager, and never wanting to HIDE her abilities.
One of my few complaints about the show is the fact that Season 1 is very obviously, "Let's do Lois and Clark with the genders reversed because we can't get the rights to Superman." It removed a lot of Kara's character diversity to make her as much like her cousin as possible.
Thankfully, it's moved a bit from there.
Wow, no. That is totally not what it was ever conceived to be. It was a strongly feminist show from the beginning, and was very much about differentiating Kara from Superman, in that she worked more with a team from the start and shared her identity with a number of people, and in that she had much more memory of Krypton and was less at home on Earth.
Well, Season 1 is my least favorite and the more she was DEO and her circle of female friends, the more I liked it.
Call me crazy.
That was a bizarre read. The thing about Singh be played by a white actor intrigued me. So I googled his name. Turns out it's most common in Egypt.
This concept of what the series was intended to be does not exist anywhere other than in your own mind.
Really? I kind of see the exact same thing - they never intended on bringing Superman into the show, and gave her most of his enemies (Parasite, Livewire, a version of Braniac), Clark's friends (Jimmy, Cat), his reporter job, his "regular guy" persona, the glasses as a disguise, and Winn as a new Jimmy. It continued by giving her a strong connection to Mon El and the Legion. This version of Supergirl has never existed in any other medium. It was always intended as a feminist show, but that has nothing to do with how much of Clark's outline they used in their world building. Arrow started out as Batman in all but name only, and Supergirl started by using the Superman outline.
^ Insults are not arguments or facts.
That should apparent to anyone. Supergirl of the comics never had the well developed private life and rogue's gallery as Superman, so this series "opened the Superman toybox" and grabbed almost everything. TV Supergirl does not have much of her own identity. All one needs to do is imagine every Superman character and tone removed from the series and exactly how much of a series remains...
