She keeps repressing a lot of expressiveness. It's like she acts kind of Vulcan for some reason.
The Casting of this series is extremely bad
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The way she talks is unnatural and stilted. She's clearly acting. She needs to dial it back to something resembling how an actual person behaves.
She keeps repressing a lot of expressiveness. It's like she acts kind of Vulcan for some reason.
Even in Walking Dead?
Examples would be nice. You didn't even list your 2 or 3 exceptions. Also when did this show have a low budget? Also I don't know about previous examples because I don't follow the careers of casting directors. Even if we know who picked everyone we don't know who they passed over for the selection they went with.
Jason
Other way round for me.
Tilly probably my favourite.
Even then it's not the actress that plays Michael that's the problem as she already has talent, just the writing.
Why so many negative comments about Shazad Latif's acting? His movements are more eloquent than facial expression. It's rare and valuable acting skill. Maybe it is more valuable on the stage than on the screen? Anyway only three s01 characters interested me, Tyler second after Lorca.
Have to disagree. Only Tilly annoys me but that's because of the way she's written not due to her acting style. I find the actors to be credible and talented. Green was very good in walking dead and I can't complain at at about her acting skills here either.
I might add that if you didn't like an episode it very well might be the writing not the actors! Bad writing can make the acting appear to be less great but it's not a reflection of the actors skill.
Writing is sooooooo important.
I've seen the first season and the first episode of the second, and I think the cast is about on the same level as the other Trek series, and at least better than Enterprise. Though I do think there are some issues with the writing for both Discovery and Enterprise which impeded what the actors were given to work with, more so than a lack of skill/acting ability on the parts of the casts. I don't think the writing has always been there for the Discovery characters, but for the most part, I don't have an issue with most of them. I thought Michelle Yeoh was stiff in the pilot, but she seemed to gravitate to the Emperor Georgiou character more, and by the end of season 1, she was having fun. I've never been a big Tilly fan, and in the second season premiere, she came across as grating and too extra, though I fault the writing more for that and a seeming desire to insert more humor. Culber didn't make much an impression on me in season 1, and I wish they had given him more to work with. For the most part I haven't had an issue with the actors playing Burnham, Stamets, Lorca, Tyler, and Saru. The Klingons, especially T'Kuvma, were hampered by their makeup, but for the most part, I didn't have a problem with L'Rell either, and I thought Kol was a villain that they should've kept around longer. If they had cut back on the masks/makeup and let the Klingon actors speak in English more I think the performances would've been even stronger.
I also like what I've seen of Pike thus far, even though he's not the hard ass he was in "The Cage" and perhaps they could've incorporated a bit more of that. But as for a generic starship captain guy, Discovery Pike was pretty cool and a nice contrast to Lorca.
I also like what I've seen of Pike thus far, even though he's not the hard ass he was in "The Cage" and perhaps they could've incorporated a bit more of that. But as for a generic starship captain guy, Discovery Pike was pretty cool and a nice contrast to Lorca.
My feelings on the main cast this season, ranked from best to worst:
- Doug Jones: Amazing, even last season when he was mostly just given pedestrian "XO" dialogue. I know he's used to working with makeup, but it's amazing the performances he can give considering he wears a rubber mask.
- Anson Mount: Just has the Pike character down cold. Conveys authority in his role, but still kinda comes across as having a "cool dad" vibe. Still not as good of an actor as Isaacs, but maybe that's for the best, because he outshone SMG so much in all their scenes together.
- Wilson Cruz: I think he's part of the main cast now, and based upon his performance in the episode before last, he's capable of depths in his performance that I haven't seen to date.
- Anthony Rapp: Finally getting some more interesting stuff to do this season after being woefully underused last season.
- SMG: Much better than last season, largely because the writing has improved. I do feel like she's doesn't have "larger than life" sort of acting persona that the best Trek leads (Shatner, Stewart, and Brooks) all had though. A better natural role for her is supporting.
- Mary Wiseman: I am enjoying her much less this season than last. Don't get me wrong, I think she's a fine actor, and many of the problems might be writing related. But this season it always seemed to me as if she randomly stumbled onto the set from another show for a scene of awkwardness and spouting some technobabble. Honestly if she were gone from the cast, I don't think the show would feel much different.
- Shazad Latif: He's put in a fantastic performance here and there this season, but I feel like he doesn't really elevate the material he's given much. Also a minor niggle, but it annoys me that either he or the showrunners decided he would have a bland North American accent, because he always sounds like he has a cold.
I agree with your assessment, though I think I like Mary Wiseman more than you seem to this season. I dig "come into my office" Tilly and her more subdued moments of awkwardness, but I don't like when they play her social dysfunction so broadly that it strains credibility she's on the bridge of a starship (such as when she was babbling at Cornwell mid-crisis). Overall, though, I think Wiseman does yeoman's work in making Tilly as likable as she is.
Wiseman is in the same boat as Yeoh -- handcuffed by the stuff they're given. I've had more than enough of one-note MU Georgiou and wish Yeoh would tone it down, but, at the same time, she has to act what's on the page. It's not her fault that all her dialogue is meant to be hissed.
I really dislike it when someone comes into the forums, creates a thread with one post, expressing how horrible some aspect or ALL of DISCOVERY is, and then disappears into the mists of time.
If you're going to take the time to create a thread to toss your opinion out there, that runs completely against the general consensus of thought about the show, then stick around to defend that opinion or just shut the heck up.
Cowardice thy name is EGO.
If you're going to take the time to create a thread to toss your opinion out there, that runs completely against the general consensus of thought about the show, then stick around to defend that opinion or just shut the heck up.
Cowardice thy name is EGO.
In The Cage, Pike's friend and confidante Dr. Boyce noticed that Pike was not acting like his usual self and that something was wearing heavily on Pike's mind. Pike confided that he was beating himself up over the recent deaths of three of his crew, and said that he was tired of being responsible for his crew and tired of deciding who lives and dies.
So it seems that if Pike in The Cage was being a hard-ass, it plausibly was just a temporary thing that could be attributed to his state of mind at the time and was not one of his usual personality traits.
Can't agree. For me Ash/Voq storyline was the most impressive in 1st season. It illustrated my own deep-hiding nightmares. Shazad Latif made his work good.
In what way?
Yep, pretty much. And if they wanted to do something interesting with the character, he should have become a real merger of the two personalities, instead of the Voq thing just being deleted and forgotten. There was an insanely stupid and convoluted backstory which ultimately resulted nothing.
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Precisely so. I absolutely enjoyed Hunter's Pike but labored under no auspices that he would have remained that way had he been the series regular.
Even so, we only had one data point of how Pike acted. Did people honestly expect him to be brooding the entire series?
The casting is good, as strong as DS9 IMO, my only hiccup would be to not cast Lorca and Tyler as from the USA, it makes the show come across as NASA in space with the odd aliens. Isaacs seems good with accents, make him Australian or German or something and Latif should keep his English accent. Thankfully they used someone from Africa (Owu) to actually play someone from that region.
The only DSC actor I'd ever seen in a previous role was Doug Jones in the Hellboy films, in which I thought he did a great job even while being covered in latex fish skin. I'd never seen any of the others before. For all I know, Mary Wiseman is the greatest actor ever, but Tilly just gets on my nerves.
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