Could Nhan's helmet have given her an atmosphere to breathe if she had activated the helmet?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x09 - "Project Daedalus"
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If he was thrown into a pit of chlorine and was unable to breathe.
Maybe, but as it wasn't activated it would seem it was either
1) Damaged
2) Unable to do so, and only provided pressure rather than a Barzanian environment
I just watched the episode again and oh my the eyes got misty. I will really miss Airiam. We never really got to know her.
I felt it was a solid episode. Loved the ocean waves over the end credits. You have to either have the sound way up or just tune yourself into it. The sounds of a beach actually.
I felt it was a solid episode. Loved the ocean waves over the end credits. You have to either have the sound way up or just tune yourself into it. The sounds of a beach actually.
i'm late - only watched it last night
watched it - gave it a ten (didn't hesitate or even think about why i did that)
i'm about halfway through the threat by now and everything i marked for an answer has already been adressed
ceterume censeo: people who want everything shown onscreen lack imagination
watched it - gave it a ten (didn't hesitate or even think about why i did that)
i'm about halfway through the threat by now and everything i marked for an answer has already been adressed
ceterume censeo: people who want everything shown onscreen lack imagination
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I thought that as well but if you look, you’ll see she’s wearing a TOS variant one which means it’s her own personal one from the Enterprise. It should be able to do her atmosphere.
we saw that, did she (she was kinda preoccupied, wasn't she?)?
Remember when Airiam asked Nhan about her breathing device?
"And that device enables you to breathe in our atmosphere?"
"Yes, why do you ask?"
"Just curious."
I suppose that even if Nhan's helmet were not damaged it would have taken way too much time to try to reprogram the suit for Barzan atmosphere. If that had even been possible. Which we don't know. So, yeah.
"And that device enables you to breathe in our atmosphere?"
"Yes, why do you ask?"
"Just curious."
I suppose that even if Nhan's helmet were not damaged it would have taken way too much time to try to reprogram the suit for Barzan atmosphere. If that had even been possible. Which we don't know. So, yeah.
Agree with both. This was one of best deaths ever in Trek.
I just rewatched and I think they did an amazing job of making me care about this character in just one episode. Kudos to new co-showrunner Michelle Paradise, director Frakes and actress Cheeseman, plus other actors. On rewatch I noticed Airiam replayed the memory of her honeymoon one last time before dying.
It is an interesting possibility. Do you suppose the Red Angel is just as disoriented experiencing time as Spock was dealing with the aftereffects of the mind meld? Checking here could be an attempt to orient themselves in time.
Yes it was all happening fast.......I think another quick cut to her trying to drag herself across the floor might have helped the flow, but it would have ruined her popping up and airlocking Airiam---but we ALL knew she was going to do it anyway. Easy to armchair direct after the fact. Still think Frakes did a wonderful job with this. One minor quibble.
Would I have been bothered? Yes, of course. Would it have made sense on DS9 shortly after Worf joined them, if Bashir had been desperate to save his friend O'Brien and had quickly figured that Worf's Klingon anatomy would probably mean he'd survive (analogous to Burnham seeing that Nhan still had one of her two apparatuses in) for a while? YES. Bashir didn't know Worf. O'Brien was his buddy.
Perhaps us being bothered by what was happening to Nhan was part of *the point* of the scene - an intended effect.
Ohhhhh maybe so. I didn't even think of that, was just doing a rewatch and the phone rang so I paused it and by chance the screen was turning red. So subtle I missed it in the previous 2 viewings.
actually, i waited for a short cut seeing her touching the breezer <- is there an official name out for that thing (in german that whould be a composit noun of aproximately 28 letters)
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The explanation seems pretty simple. Nobody but the enemy wanted Airiam to live. Everybody including Airiam wanted Airiam to die. And quickly, within the next fifteen seconds or so.
It had already been demonstrated that Airiam was a deadly threat to a great many things, with no known remedy to the situation but the one she herself proposed, that of killing her. Nobody in his or her right mind would have disagreed with that. And she clearly didn't.
Airiam had originally become an agent of evil simply by standing on the bridge of the Discovery. She could not be quarantined with any sort of certainty; locked into a frigging airlock, she was about to end the universe. Her actions were seconds short of causing Armageddon. There was no hope of a cure within that time window. And in any case, saving Airiam's body would have been futile: she had eschewed with that one once already. It was her mind that needed saving. Except here it needed killing.
The only real question here is, why didn't they fire phasers at Airiam to make sure?
Probably not all that easily. After all, apparently it originally and routinely didn't. We might speculate that her breathing mix is highly poisonous and couldn't be used with humans or the like nearby; dispensers of minuscule, highly concentrated doses of the vital poison would have to be used instead. To get the suit to produce the poison would require overriding lots of things, which probably was beyond Nhan's abilities at the time.
Timo Saloniemi
I have NO DOUBT having just moved to Stuttgart and trying to learn German!
It crossed my mind while watching that Nhan was not being paid attention. But it equally crossed my mind that perhaps the point of not showing her was to heighten the tension. Sometimes, I suppose, directors like to have multiple moving parts requiring urgent attention that the viewer has to keep in mind for a short time period to build up to the climax. After all, the viewer is thinking "Nhan could die! Why is she not being helped?" along with "Burnham doesn't know what to do! She's gonna let her in ! Nah, she has to space her! Oh no, perhaps this is the goody-two-shoes Burnham, she's going to let her in and fight off the bad virus inside her! Oh, but she's made such decisions before, maybe she spaces her and cries about it afterwards, just like in the premier." "Oh Airiam! She is practically begging to be killed! To save everyone! God the sacrifice!" "Where's the Red Angel? Why doesn't she show? WTF???"
All in good showmanship.
All in good showmanship.
I hadn't noticed till you mentioned it. Now, I need to rewatch and see if I missed any other scenes like that.
ha! i did see thatone and normaly i miss a lot
