And an unremarkable thing.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x09 - "Project Daedalus"
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Holograms existed as far back as the 2150s when Malcolm used holographic remotes to train with phase pistols and/or EM pulse rifles. I'm still wondering how he rigged the armory with an early holoprojector but they nevertheless did exist more than a century before DSC.
I perhaps felt more gravitas than many with Airiam's death, as it ended up being very much Burnham being put through the ringer with Spock reminding her the amount of guilt she bears for doing nothing while her parents were being killed, and Airiam's situation and the fact that she cannot save her is a gut punch to a recently reopened wound that she has never allowed to heal.
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Comes standard with the NX model, just like the cup holders.
There is a big plot hole, as they could've transported Airiam directly to the brig. But could the brig have held her? I just go with the idea that Pike cycled through the options in his head and made the call he thought needed to be made.
Not perfect, but sometimes the drama makes the plot hole worthwhile.
I really would be grateful, if they tried to verbalize it at least a little.
Whereas I am always grateful when they resist the temptation to do so. Different strokes and all.
In many instances, I would agree with you. This time? I thought the scene played out beautifully. Not sure the drama would've been served by slowing it down with needless Trekspeak.
As Discovery has shown us time and time again, it isn't going to chew our food for us.
If you've come to that realization, then it isn't a plot hole at all. Merely a reminder that this show expects its audience to do some of their own thinking.
This isn't about chewing food though. It represents a really big plot hole. They beamed the team over, they obviously beamed the remaining team back.
Just because we are generally okay with how a scene plays out doesn't mean there aren't faults with how it was done.
Did they obviously beam them back? Not by the end of the episode they didn't. Yes, in prior editions we would get an epilogue where the weeks lesson would be rehashed and we'd get told what some in the audience weren't able figure out things on their own. Doesn't make it a plot hole. Makes it a challenge to the audience.
Its a plot hole. Just because we like the end result doesn't mean there's not a massive logic problem with the scene.
I understood that the station defenses were such that getting a transporter lock could be a problem and no one said that problem was ever solved before they were beamed over. I also understood that everyone agreed that even if they could beam Airiam back to the Discovery she was too much of a risk to do so in her current condition.
No plot hole for me.
In fact, I recall they mentioned it would be tough, since they couldn't sense life signs due to the prison being designed and built to not to allow unauthorized beam outs (obviously). That's why they had to resort to examining a schematic to try to figure out the best beam in point and get pretty close in range.
Airiam was too dangerous to allow back onto Discovery. Period. She had the means via her cyborg technology to disable and destroy Discovery if the CONTROL Program was able to keep controlling her. Airiam knew she'd be forced to kill her shipmates, knew her own tech capabilities and that the invading AI would not stop until it achieved its goal and thus made the decision to sacrifice herself rather than take that risk and endanger the ship again.
Airiam was too dangerous to allow back onto Discovery. Period. She had the means via her cyborg technology to disable and destroy Discovery if the CONTROL Program was able to keep controlling her. Airiam knew she'd be forced to kill her shipmates, knew her own tech capabilities and that the invading AI would not stop until it achieved its goal and thus made the decision to sacrifice herself rather than take that risk and endanger the ship again.
Then again, they could target her once was ejected from the station just as they saved Tyler (another double agent...) last season. OK, I can get she was dangerous, but this seemed like the case of sci-fi show that always comes with convoluted means to overcome the problem suddenly not having them becouse "that would not be realistic".
Given they didn't beam into the part of the station Control was located in, I presumed the core area was shielded. If that was the case, there's a simple reason why they didn't beam them out.
That doesn't explain why they didn't beam Airiam over post spacing of course. They did that with Voq last season after all.
That doesn't explain why they didn't beam Airiam over post spacing of course. They did that with Voq last season after all.
The lack of exactly this is what makes the show refreshing.
I could do with less convoluted means to overcome the problem and have there be consequences for the actions, rather than it be fixed by the end.
Airiam said (paraphrased, probably), "I will open this door and kill you. Then I will complete my mission, and destroy Discovery."
They believed her, and she was seconds away from either resuming or finishing the download.
She stated that Control was overwriting her motor functions so she couldn't control her actions. If they'd beamed her to the brig or sickbay or wherever, as soon as she was able she would resume the mission to download and transmit the sphere data. There was no way to win (and Jim Kirk was apparently unavailable
).
That's how I interpreted the situation, anyway.
They believed her, and she was seconds away from either resuming or finishing the download.
She stated that Control was overwriting her motor functions so she couldn't control her actions. If they'd beamed her to the brig or sickbay or wherever, as soon as she was able she would resume the mission to download and transmit the sphere data. There was no way to win (and Jim Kirk was apparently unavailable
).That's how I interpreted the situation, anyway.
