Spoilers Captain Marvel - Grading & Discussion

So, you did not get anything from her being a lost (and somewhat angry) personality for most of the film?

 

The movie was ok, I thought it could do with more action and definitely more characterization. I didn't know who she was by the end of the movie. Yes, we know who she was before but who is she now? Is she closer to the person she was in her former life or still someone detached from it.

If this wasn't about a character who was going to play a big part in Endgame i'm not sure if I would recommend it. But I feel like you have to see it.

 

Yep, in the comics her powers are light based. All wave lengths, She can literally turn into a beam of light. Currently her code name is Spectrum.

 

Photon blast sounds light based to me, too.

 

Monica's original powers, and quite possibly still her current powers, were to change into any form of radiation.

Light is a marginally safe sort of radiation to default to, when hanging around a lot of soft fleshies who dissolve easily near exotic particles.

I saw in person, at a convention, Mark Waid talk about how Photon was a "cooler" name than Captain Marvel, because it's more descriptive of her powers, even though he is wrong and it does not describe her powers, unless he changed her powers (in the 90s) when he changed her name, in Avengers ( just after heroes reborn fizzled out).

"Sigh"

 

Super strength and super durability doesn't. And it wouldn't even matter if they were both 'light based'. The power sets would still be different, since Carol shoots light rather than becoming light.

 

Movie Carol shoots tesseract energy, which has omnipresential qualities.

Any number towards infinity points in space can be connected or disconnected to any other number towards infinity points in space, as well as the same points in space, which would turn space inside out, or shred it.

The stone controls space (All of it) with wishes.

The strength might come from the kree blood?

 

But that was the whole point, that she is know going to find out who she is NOW. She remembers her past life, but also had a live the last 6 years as Vers. It's not as if "Heyo, there are my memories! Now all is whole again!" is something that happens in real life. She's figuring out who she is, what her life is going to be about.

And here's the kicker..... Yes, we'll see her in Endgame. But since we don't know if 25 years have passed for her, or if she time traveled or what ever.... They actually set her sequel movie 4 years after Captain Marvel, and make it in a movie set in between her origin story and Endgame. I mean, that's what's happening with Wonder Woman 2, so why couldn't they do something similar here??

*Que all the raging fanboys who will now complain that would be Marvel trying to copy Wonder Woman's succes even more.....*

 

Carol doesn't care about her memories, or she would have stayed on Earth.

She believes she is the "same person deep down on the inside" even though her value system is shaped by the Kree lifestyle. Although, other Kree wouldn't fall for it, and consider her a freak, which is why Minerva wasn't interested in drinking with a fake half person.

It's possible that her "therapy" with the Supreme Intelligence was necessary to reinforce Carol's conditioning, and it might quickly break down, now that her "therapy" is at an end, or it's possible that there is (safe) technology out in space that will allow her to hack her conditioning, and integrate her two lives, if she cares to.

 

No, she's out saving Skrulls and putting an end to the Kree war on everyone. She may have been involved in settling the war against Xandar at the start of GotG. She might have even been the Kree girl Starlord mentions.

 

I maintain that Pierce's character assessment of Fury was not based on anything happening overnight, and by the first time we see him in the post credits scene of Iron Man in 2008--presumably that's real world time--he already has a cold, darker edge. By the time he became director of SHIELD--with all of what its known about the agency throughout its history, he had to have a larger, grim outlook on the world...on top of all of the non-otherworldly threats he faced over the years, requiring an uncompromising, violent response/mindset. When an "oddity" comes to earth, and he eventually believes Danvers to have an extraterrestrial association, his reactions should been more "on point" instead of behaving as if he was going along for the ride as a newcomer to everything.

I can agree with that because...they're cats.

 

Holy shit, if there's a scene in Endgame after the Unsnapping, where Starlord walks over to Carol and goes 'Hey you' and she slaps him the face with a photonblast, I'm gonna die laughing.

 

Refresh my memory what was the context of Starlord's comment?

That would be awesome!

 

It was in the prison when he was trying to talk Drax down from killing Gamora. He was doing a Jaws recount of various injuries from various women.

 

Ah, that's right! Thank you for the refresher.

 

Even if Carol has stopped ageing, how old does Starlord have to be, even if his social education stopped in the 80s, to start calling a 30ish year old woman a "girl"?

 

Perhaps, that's why he almost got his thorax ripped out?

 

I'd rather have seen her go on that journey of self discovery in the movie. In the same way that characters like Iron Man and Thor come out the other end of the film as changed. Part of the heroes journey, not just the discovery of inner power but discovering something about who they are.

Was wondering about that today. How many pre snap movies might there be? Spiderman far from home? Captain Marvel 2? Guardians of the Galaxy 3?

 

None of them are for certain.

Far From Home is probably pre-snap (at least, I hope it is for character development between Peter and May) but there are suggestions in the trailers that it's post-snap.

I think before the Twitter debacle, Gunn said Vol. 3 would be post-Avengers.

It's far too early to know for any other films, but with the possible exception of Captain Marvel, I fully expect all of them to be post-snap.

 

I thought it was certain that Far from Home would be post-snap. Also, it never occurred to me that Guardians 3 would be pre-snap, either. If nothing else, a pre-snap guardians 3 would totally ruin the progression of Groot through the trilogy. He needs to get back to (more or less) where he started in G1, not chronologically end with Infinity War's teenage Groot.