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Season 3 Course Correction

I just had a thought about the whole ageism accusation earlier: that argument completely falls apart when you consider that the Picard Series stars a 79-year-old Patrick Stewart, and lots of people -- including fans of Discovery -- are looking forward to it.
Do they realise how old Michelle Yeoh, Anson Mount, Doug Jones and Jason Isaacs are?
 
I just had a thought about the whole ageism accusation earlier: that argument completely falls apart when you consider that the Picard Series stars a 79-year-old Patrick Stewart, and lots of people -- including fans of Discovery -- are looking forward to it.

Honestly, I'm looking more forwards to it after having watched Sir Patty's 2 seasons of Blunt Talk.
 
No, I'm not. I actually agree with you about "Magic," so apply your own standard to how that episode is different than "Obol" in terms of structure and in terms of character pay-off.

In "Obol," narratively-speaking, three things had to happen; the ship needed to get an info-dump, Tilly needed to get kidnapped by May, "

I second and third this.
My only consistent gripe this season is the regressive direction they have taken with Tilly's character.
She has been dialed up to 11, which plays as immature/impulsive, at the level of a young maladapted teen. The fact that STD is a adult SciFi drama makes her portrayal an especially annoying, dissonant and immersion breaking aspect in this show.

With 8 episodes (S2) so far and lots of screen-time in the major story arc/narratives, her character has remained static, nothing of her experiences stick or have impact that carries over to following episodes. Tilly is a sitcom character, a caricature. Wiseman is a talented actor so this is unfortunate.
 
I second and third this.
My only consistent gripe this season is the regressive direction they have taken with Tilly's character.
She has been dialed up to 11, which plays as immature/impulsive, at the level of a young maladapted teen. The fact that STD is a adult SciFi drama makes her portrayal an especially annoying, dissonant and immersion breaking aspect in this show.

With 8 episodes (S2) so far and lots of screen-time in the major story arc/narratives, her character has remained static, nothing of her experiences stick or have impact that carries over to following episodes. Tilly is a sitcom character, a caricature. Wiseman is a talented actor so this is unfortunate.
Tilly has a jarring personality that doesn't mesh well with common "mature" and "adult" standards. You're right about that. She's this show's Barclay. But neither of them are sitcom characters. To some, they could both be indistinguishable from terrible caricatures in shows like Big Bang Theory, but there is a clear difference to anyone who has actually met people like them. They are real, and often get the same reactions in real life that you have toward the character. She hasn't been dialed up. The fact that she isn't forced to "dial down" who she is to function among other adults is kind of the point of the character, I think.
 
I see now that I was wrong. Discovery doesn't need to change at all to satisfy it's fanbase. Instead, it just needs more of the same. A lot more.
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I think these ideas are much more to the speed of the average Discovery viewer.

See, I was going to engage with the original posting on its merits, though it really sets out to fix a lot of things that don't need fixing, IMO, but then you engage in this condescending nonsense.

I can't stand the Trekkie tendency to think they are smarter than everybody else because they know TV trivia.
 
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