The capacity some human beings have to rationalize and deny reality has never ceased to amaze me
Star Trek Discovery Renewed For Season 3
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The capacity some human beings have to rationalize and deny reality has never ceased to amaze me
don't me wrong, i love that they clearly heap loads of money into these episodes and make it cinematic enough to justify subscribing to CBS AA for discovery alone. but i could live with a little less dazzle and a few more scenes of dialogue.
TOS and TNG had white dudes in charge?
What makes it even more hilarious is that most of the shit they complain about, isn't even in Discovery and it's a large part of why I dislike the show. Discovery is by far the least philosophical and sci-fi exploration focused Trek ever made. There are like, three or four episodes that even attempt to explore some sci-fi moral concept in any meaningful way yet apparently this show is Far-left SJW propaganda.
The thing is, CBS did that cynical culture war drum up that many marketing teams do these days (Hbomber did a fantastic video on this very recently) with crap like "This isn't Star Trek for Trump voters!", "This is the first Star Trek lead thats black and the boys don't like this!" and of course like always the dumb reactionary right fell for it and Discovery became the centre of the pop-culture identity politics culture wars and it's still going on. Same with Black Panther, same with The Last Jedi, same with Wonder Woman, same with Captain Marvel.
I think things have really regressed. Setting aside DSC itself for a moment, I posted on Star Trek bulletin boards in the '90s and I don't remember the reaction to VOY being more female-dominant being as extreme as the reaction to DSC. With Janeway, Torres, and Seven all having roles that normally would've gone to men, Naomi Wildman being the prodigy, and Borg Queen becoming the Big Bad. You had complaints about how "It's too PC!" but that was nowhere near as bad as "SJWs!!!" You had some sexist remarks or subtly sexist remarks but now it seems so much worse. Then you had an Tuvok, Kim, and Chakotay. A black, an Asian, and a Mexican playing a Native American. The only two white males were Paris and The Doctor. Neelix was in full alien make-up.
DS9 was the same. Three black leads, two women, only four white males. And of those four white males, Quark and Odo were in full alien make-up. All you had were O'Brien and Bashir.
But I DO NOT remember people complaining about White Males' very existence and presence being threatened during the DS9/VOY years. I do not. The main complaints were "DS9 is on a space station! It's a soap opera! Gene didn't want a show about war!" and the complaints about VOY were "It's warmed-over TNG! It's the temporal anomaly show! It's the Seven of Nine Hour! Janeway is inconsistent!"
Now, with DSC, suddenly it's all a political agenda, some say. "They killed white male Connolly!" "Pike is the Token White Guy!" On and on and on. It's ridiculous. Made more ridiculous by the fact that when called about how diverse previous Star Trek was, they say, "That was different!"
If someone has an issue with Discovery because of writing, how it's directed and produced, or even stupid stuff like canon, fine. I get that. Fair enough. I've been posting on Trek boards for 23 years. I know how it is. But this crap about "SJWs!" and "The Liberal Agenda" needs to stop.
DS9 was the same. Three black leads, two women, only four white males. And of those four white males, Quark and Odo were in full alien make-up. All you had were O'Brien and Bashir.
But I DO NOT remember people complaining about White Males' very existence and presence being threatened during the DS9/VOY years. I do not. The main complaints were "DS9 is on a space station! It's a soap opera! Gene didn't want a show about war!" and the complaints about VOY were "It's warmed-over TNG! It's the temporal anomaly show! It's the Seven of Nine Hour! Janeway is inconsistent!"
Now, with DSC, suddenly it's all a political agenda, some say. "They killed white male Connolly!" "Pike is the Token White Guy!" On and on and on. It's ridiculous. Made more ridiculous by the fact that when called about how diverse previous Star Trek was, they say, "That was different!"
If someone has an issue with Discovery because of writing, how it's directed and produced, or even stupid stuff like canon, fine. I get that. Fair enough. I've been posting on Trek boards for 23 years. I know how it is. But this crap about "SJWs!" and "The Liberal Agenda" needs to stop.
There are a lot more crazies in this world than we thought. You have to look no further than the current US government. It feels like our universe has become the mirror universe.
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Great news about the renewal. Hoping the show goes 5 to 6 seasons (or more).
We were shown Burnham reaching her goal of redemption and reinstatement by the end of season 1. The only thing that has not been confirmed this season is if Burnham still wants her own command. But keep in mind that there is quite a bit of this season left.
But more importantly, it would go against the show's original premise which was to be the first Trek show to not focus on the captain. So, if Burnham gets promoted to captain, it probably won't happen until the very end of DSC's run.
No she's not. Prior to the mutiny, it was strongly implied that one of Burnham's goals was to have her own command. After the mutiny, her goals were presented as redemption through helping Lorca and DSC end the war.
We were shown Burnham reaching her goal of redemption and reinstatement by the end of season 1. The only thing that has not been confirmed this season is if Burnham still wants her own command. But keep in mind that there is quite a bit of this season left.
yes but who is michael burnham? it's a question the show is less interested in answering than it is continually depicting what has happened to her and how she has reacted. it's all story, not character.
A contract with who?????? CBS owns Star Trek and CBS All Access. What are these guys smoking?
Really? What show are you watching? And what shows did you watch?
I'm guessing they came on board during Enterprise, drawn in by its Country song theme and good ole' boy sensibility..
Country???? That song was pure Power Pop my friend. You're not gonna find Russell Watson or Rod Stewart on Country radio.
Country???? That song was pure Power Pop my friend. You're not gonna find Russell Watson or Rod Stewart on Country radio.
I'm a Canadian who grew up in the 80s in Toronto. To me that was not power-pop. To me 80s Rush, Triumph and Trevor Rabin driven Yes and Heart of the era is power pop. The Enterprise theme sounded to me like Nu-Country. But I've always found when American produced hard rock ballads have tended towards a countryish feel, IMO, since the later eighties.
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I don't remember them doing anything like that.
As an American, with roots in Tennessee and Texas, that ain't Country. It's Pop sung by a guy who's background is pop classical/operatic.
The Enterprise opening song is the song that me and my boyfriend absolutely LOVE to hate. So purely early 2000s cheese. The jazzed up version in season 3 I think was even cheesier.
Watch the Hbomber video on "Woke Brands". Another good documentary on this was Generation Like. Marketing firms don't sell products, they sell the identity associated with that product, throughout the 20th century this basically just was selling looking wealthy or cool but then Oreos latched onto the LGBT movement in the 2000s and Oreos sales EXPLODED, consumption of Oreos became a political statement, I eat Oreos to support gay rights and marketing firms realised this. Then when that coffee machine company pulled sponsorship from Fox they noticed that Conservatives started reacting by buying smashing all their coffee machines and this in turn made the news report on the coffee machine and this "controversy" suddenly everyone was talking about the coffee machine and sales exploded and that was the birth of what Woke marketing, You've seen Nike do it, Marvel do it, Gillette do it, Disney do it and CBS did it with Discovery. It's done specifically to make consumption a political statement and piss off easily triggered conservatives to create new media discussion around a product thus insane amounts of free advertising.
The ironic thing is that the "advertisement" say that Gillette commercial isn't actually the commercial, it's all the pissed off triggered Conservatives that turn it into a major news story. Literally useful idiots. (actually in fairness both sides are, a left which is dead in any material meaningful way since the collapse of the Union movement and the rise of hard-right Neoliberal economics so it thinks consumption of corporate brands is political activism and a right which is triggered into being advertising for liberals to consume)
Propaganda by Edward Bernays (like the PR marketing bible), Generation Like and Consuming Kids are good docos on this trend, also again that Woke Brands video by Hbomberguy.
Praise be to the Red Angel, that's great news. CBS may not allow their flagship to fail, but it's a great sign of confidence in the overall franchise plan that this is happening.
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The reason they liked TOS and TNG was because it was about white dudes leading the way fighting Romulans and Bog. Troi only sat so close to power because Picard needs a lap dance every now and then.
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