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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x06 - "The Sound of Thunder"

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Don't see why not being mentioned would be a canon issue. Lotta ships out there and a whole lot more Starfleet members. No way the people we've met could name check them all.
There are many other continuity issues that have been argued to death and don't need to be rehashed in this thread. However, since the producer says they will be resolved this season I'm sticking with my time-travel theory unless something more plausible comes along.
 
There are many other continuity issues that have been argued to death and don't need to be rehashed in this thread. However, since the producer says they will be resolved this season I'm sticking with my time-travel theory unless something more plausible comes along.
Other than the tech looking like it's part of a second-decade-21st-century TV show instead of a 1966 TV show, I don't know of any real continuity issues.

The characters and plots/stories in DSC have not directly contradicted anything from TOS onward. And when I say "directly contradict", I mean some fact or character background from TOS that cannot possibly be reconciled with DSC by using some not-to-difficult gap-filling.
 
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Though he'll probably show up in the last 30 seconds or something. :D

As an aside, why do some people call Culber Culbert? Is it translated that in some foreign countries?
Probably the same reason some people still insist on calling Cornwell "Cornwall". :D

Not quite sure about Burnham's last line about going to Vulcan.
I figure we have to end up at Vulcan eventually -- Disco still needs to pick up their real new captain, whoever that may be.

Any chance that Armus from that one season 1 episode of TNG "Skin of Evil" is a Ba'ul?
Nah, but it did look a lot like that when it first started rising up out of the goo pool.

Other questions & observations:
- Why was Ash wearing a regular Starfleet uniform and not that cool black gear he was wearing in the previous episode? I don't think he's officially Starfleet anymore, and it would certainly set him apart nicely from the rest of the crew, considering his status as a Section 31 agent, which is no secret.

- It's interesting how oblivious Stamets is to Culber's mental state right now. Even when Culber visibly recoiled from Stamets' touch, Stamets was all smiles and rainbows. He may be getting a wake-up call soon when Culber finally tells him to back off.

- On this week's "Ready Room" instalment, it was revealed that this episode, and Saru's Short Treks episode, "The Brightest Star," were filmed at the same time.
 
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It's only natural to seek out patterns between different related things
I wasn't saying that there will be no connections, or that people are wrong to see them. I was saying that I hope that the show itself isn't going to make all these connections concrete. It's more like a checklist than anything if each season 2 episode specifically has a red string tied to another episode in the franchise.

I wasn't a proponent of the Ferengi thing
I could be wrong, but I don't think most people were. It seemed more like one person whisper-campaigning it. "That Fünke is some kind of something!" ;)
 
Ooohhh could be. I like how you think.

/sends a jipper. You're responsible for your own beach, I'm afraid/
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my thanks. I confess I've become fond of them.
 
I could be wrong, but i think the drone ships were part of the Ba'ul complex, at least that's how it looked. Even if the Ba'ul ships were still orbit, it's possible they were deactivated when the complex was shut down. Also, all of the Kelpiens have gone through the Vahar'ai. It's possible that even if the Ba'ul could harm them, they won't as it would destroy the balance. There has to be a specific reason why they didn't wipe out the kelpiens totally when they had the chance.
The complex only had eight of the floaty things, and they were each about 10-20km tall.

Comparatively there were ten Ba'ul ships sent to intercept the Discovery, each of which was only somewhere between 1-2km tall.


If other Kelpians have roughly the same intellectual capacity and ability to adapt of Saru, once they break their indoctrination, they should be able to adapt to using the Ba'ul technology fairly quickly.
Not in the hours it will take the Ba'ul to repair their stuff.

I would assume now that Pike has directly involved the Federation in their conflict, the Kelpians will come under Starfleet protection, and by extension, the Ba'ul if the Kelpians should try and expand and become belligerent again themselves.
The Federation isn't going to enter into a war to protect a bunch of primitives.

Especially against a warp capable race who's ships dwarf their own and have guns half the size of Discovery.
 
The Federation isn't going to enter into a war to protect a bunch of primitives.

Especially against a warp capable race who's ships dwarf their own and have guns half the size of Discovery.
Big ships don't mean they were particularly advanced. It just means they built big. They had something that looked more like ENT era fusion rockets than the kind of drives normally seen in in star trek. they might have warp but since they are isolated they may be very stunted technologically, and throw everything into large planetary defense postures. Large guns are generally only useful if they are mobile enough or can withstand and break sieges.
 
The Federation isn't going to enter into a war to protect a bunch of primitives.
If it's a Prime Directive/General Order One situation they won't, but Pike already decided to intervene, and said he would fire on the Ba'ul to defend the Kelpians, so it seems they were willing to risk war.

Also, the Federation / the Enterprise or other main ship crews have intervened to defend primitive (or what they thought were primitive) species before.
Especially against a warp capable race who's ships dwarf their own and have guns half the size of Discovery.
It occurred to me once the Ba'ul were revealed to actually be the prey species, their ships followed herd behavior by being big and intimidating, hiding their true numbers, and forming a defensive line/circle for shared defense/offense. So there might be more bark than bite there.

Pike certainly thought they could hold their own against the ships, and they've only been warp capable for twenty years, so the Federation should be far more advanced.

Plus, as said, big doesn't necessarily mean more powerful. The Kazon ships were massive, but were far more primitive than Voyager.
 
One of my favorite background elements was in the scene when Saru confronts Pike on the bridge, you see the bridge officer behind Pike quickly rise from his seat ready to defend the captain because he thinks Saru is about to strike him.

I liked that element, too. It kind of harkens back to what Burnham did to Georgiou....the details of which would have made the rounds.

"What is it with these Shenzhou people, anyway?!?"

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Big ships don't mean they were particularly advanced. It just means they built big. They had something that looked more like ENT era fusion rockets than the kind of drives normally seen in in star trek. they might have warp but since they are isolated they may be very stunted technologically, and throw everything into large planetary defense postures. Large guns are generally only useful if they are mobile enough or can withstand and break sieges.
Bigger doesn't mean more advanced, true, but it does mean bigger.

The Ba'ul have ships which are at least five times the size and possess something like 20 times the internal volume. Which means instead of building and installing a 10ft by 20m warp core that produces 1 units of power on their ships, the Ba'ul could build and install 50ft by 100m warp cores that produce 3 units of power. The same sort of thing holds true for energy weapons and torpedo's since you can just pump more power, or add more anti-matter to make up for the weapons lack of technological advancement.

On top of this, we know for a fact that the Ba'ul are more advanced material technology wise and anti-gravity tech wise then the Starfleet of even the Voyager era since they can build giant structures which can stand up to immense pressures of having 40 some kilometers of water on top of them that can also hover in the air.
 
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