Spock has been obsessed with the red bursts and the Angels for some time, yet in TOS Obsession he tells McCoy he doesn't understand obsessive behaviour. Is he in denial that he WAS obsessed, or is this a continuity error?
One Spock continuity violation we might struggle with?
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Spock is a pathological liar. I don't trust a word he says.
The planet Vulcan should have been named De Nile.
Vulcans are basically those kids in high school who said they didn't masturbate or that girl you knew who said she never farted. That is to say vulcans are big fat liars
He's a loony bin escapee...don't trust a word he says
Brett Kavanaugh is Vulcan?!
Is it an obsession if you're not an intentional pursuer? Spock's not seeking out these Red Angels of his own free will, he's being forced to see them through visions and what he interprets as "nightmares" outside of his control, but which will probably turn out to be attempts at communication on their part. And I think it's going to be revealed that he's following them now because he has no choice and has to silence them in his mind or else he'll go permanently mad. They're coming to him, he wasn't going after them, at least not before now. It's not Ahab and the white whale. When they stopped contacting him as a child, he didn't try and contact them again until they returned to him in adulthood, and he was "happier" (in Vulcan terms) and more well-adjusted as a result of being disconnected.
Come on, without his disciplined logic he can be pretty damn violent. His devotion logic protects both himself and the people around him. The Vulcan devotion to logic is what kept them from destroying themselves. But again, when you follow the maxim, the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few or the one, then their denial makes sense.
That brings to the forefront a couple of questions ... why did the Red Angles stop appearing to Spock, and how many times before this have they appeared to others?
Big fat liars? Compared to whom? Humans? Really?
I didn't think about it. And I won't when he shows up in DSC.
But, what the heck? I don't know if Spock is lying in "Obsession". At least to anyone else, that is. He's probably lying to himself. Calling it something besides obsession.
I'd say Spock was pretty obsessed about getting Pike to Talos IV in "The Menagerie". He'd have to be to go through all of that. Except he wouldn't call it obsession. He'd call it logic. And I'd call that bullshit.
Note: Spock's seeming obsessive behavior is about providing aid or enhancing understanding. Its not a Captain Ahab full on hunting something to kill it above all else when that something is a fellow lifeform that is also doing what it has to to survive and doesn't present a major threat. Its understandable that kind of obsession wouldn't make sense to him. And its understandable he wouldn't call what he does obsession. He'd call it persistence because it's aim is non-destructive..
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