Then it is dead as Discovery is more of the same. They promised us Game of Thrones then gave us a laughably bad first season that constantly jabbed the viewer in the ribs going "See! We're Star Trek!!!".
Could this be set in the Kelvin timeline?
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Then it is dead as Discovery is more of the same. They promised us Game of Thrones then gave us a laughably bad first season that constantly jabbed the viewer in the ribs going "See! We're Star Trek!!!".
Nobody promised anyone it would be Game of Thrones.
Okay, I hate to be this guy but:
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ETA: And had I took a moment I could have found it myself.
Gotta say I agree with Bill on this. I enjoy Disco but they missed the ball on the GOT connection.
Yeah, there's something a little unsettling about treating the word of a TV producer as holy writ. It's art, and people debate the meaning of art all the time.
Yes, CBS officially consider Disco to be the same world as TOS. But that doesn't mean we have to. There are very compelling arguments against it, and many questions about creative choices made which seemingly contradict their official stance.
To me, STDisco is in the same world as TOS in the "broad strokes" way that "Superman Returns" is in the same world as "Superman: The Movie" and "Superman II." You just can't get hung up over the details or you'll drive yourself batty. Watch it as its own show without thinking too much about what came before.
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He's an actor that did a role for a pilot, didn't do the main series and the footage got reused creatively. How much can anyone have invested in that performance? It was ok.
Not so much the performance, but he represented the "history" of the Enterprise and the Trek universe for a long time.
For me, Mount's Pike is Discovery's Pike, much like Greenwood is the Abramsverse Pike.
Star Trek Discovery reminds me of ENT "These are the Voyages" except with better special effects. As with ENT "These are the Voyages": things don't look right, finds itself tripping over continuity, there's disconnected from the shows, has some action but the story seems thrown together with backstory added. I don't mind watching ENT "These are the Voyages" but it's not the ideal trek episode. Like ENT "These are the Voyages", Discovery is "ehh" trek. How people could be so critical of an episode like ENT "These are the Voyages" but give Discovery a free pass doesn't make much sense to me. 
That would explain why they OD'ed on Klingon subtitles in the beginning trying to make the klingons seem all exotic like GOT's valerians, the backstabbing stuff going on in Discovery, character deaths. Discovery is no GOT. The Expanse did game of thrones in space pretty good though.
Because they're not similar.How people could be so critical of an episode like ENT "These are the Voyages" but give Discovery a free pass doesn't make much sense to me.
Citing Influence does not a promise to turn Trek into 'Game of Thrones' make. Especially where the writer takes pains to point out how the show won't be like game of thrones.
Star Trek Discovery reminds me of ENT "These are the Voyages" except with better special effects. As with ENT "These are the Voyages": things don't look right, finds itself tripping over continuity, there's disconnected from the shows, has some action but the story seems thrown together with backstory added. I don't mind watching ENT "These are the Voyages" but it's not the ideal trek episode. Like ENT "These are the Voyages", Discovery is "ehh" trek. How people could be so critical of an episode like ENT "These are the Voyages" but give Discovery a free pass doesn't make much sense to me.
Discovery IMHO stands above ENT in two ways, first, they didn't go to country music for a theme song, and secondly, its actually more progressive in its outlook and presentation than previous series, not less progressive than TOS as ENT managed to be rather to often for my taste.
I don't see how ENT is less progressive than TOS.
Doesn't mean we don't have to either. But then I can watch Bond from Connery to Craig and not have problems with updates to match the difference between the 60s and 21st century. Some people are weird that way, I guess.
TOS didn't have two "Good Ole Boys' as Captain and Commander now, did it?
but man imagine if barbara broccoli told us daniel craig is supposed to be a young sean connery and the events of casino royale, quantum of solace, skyfall, and specter precede dr no. that'd be a stretch, but not far off from what's going on with discovery.
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Curious why this is still coming up.
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