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Spoilers Do you wish SPOILER had lived? (S2E1 Brother)
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The Andorians, Tellarites and Vulcans wanted to honor Captain Archer for saving the galaxy and starting their version of the United Nations, so it put Starfleet in charge of defence with the caveat only white males from North America can be top dog.Wow, just wow.
Clearly Star Trek has been lacking in straight white males
Everyone else just had to suck it up, however in the Kelvinverse after the Admiral Marcus scandal, the rest of the Federation saw the light.....
His death was the ultimate commentary on white-male mansplaining privilege. It has no place in Trek.
I didn't mourn the death of Lt. Not-Spock one bit.
I didn't mourn the death of Lt. Not-Spock one bit.
The Andorians, Tellarites and Vulcans wanted to honor Captain Archer for saving the galaxy and starting their version of the United Nations, so it put Starfleet in charge of defence with the caveat only white males from North America can be top dog.
Without a doubt, how can an organisation which represents dozens of species, all their various ethnicities and assorted complex genders possibly not be dominated by a group which represent.....what percentage of humanity exactly?
Right, meaning if an actor has an issue and wants to move on, only then did that actor get killed off.
A quote from Denise Crosby: "I was miserable. I couldn’t wait to get off that show. I was dying. This was not an overnight decision. I was grateful to have made that many episodes, but I didn’t want to spend the next six years going “Aye, aye, captain,” and standing there, in the same uniform, in the same position on the bridge. It just scared the hell out of me that this was what I was going to be doing for the next X-amount of years."
And then she asked to come back...right?
After WW3, the entire planet was wiped out, except Montana.....which explains TOS and ENT
Ahhhhhh, now I see.
I don't know the specifics of it, but I think her roles that followed were more nuanced, more on her terms, and less of an overall commitment to the ST universe while still getting paid.
Good drama is the HOW. VOY got stale because their HOWs were mostly bland and they often failed to tie the stakes of the situation with consistent characterization, even when one or the other was handled well. If the litmus test for drama is reduced to WILL THEY LIVE THIS WEEK, then there is no drama of interpersonal interaction, no sense of interesting adventure, no exploration of unknown "out there" or the "in here" of the human condition. Accepting that leads likely won't die each week is part of buying into the concept, like artificial gravity or warp speed or the Captain going on away missions ever.
So, there was no guarantee people would live?
We have no idea where Dr Pulaski went, or Argyle, or Kosinski....
That's not what I'm saying. "Will they live this week" is not the litmus test, it's just 1 aspect of the drama which is, in fact, portrayed as life & death situations in many episodes. I agree with you on the hows. To me, it's all of the above, not just any 1 thing. But if life & death situations aren't believable in any way for the possibility of the latter, then 1 major component of suspense is rendered totally useless.
He was believable as a TOS era crewman. See TOS - "The Corbomite Maneuver", "Balance Of Terror", "Obsession" (I could name more eps.) for examples of 'non-perfect' but very capable Human beings serving aboard the 1701.
24th Century 'Utopian Society' TNG era 1701-D crewman - no (Unless he was Klingon of course).
Of course by the 24th century - they'll be able to go into a Conference room - spout technobable for 10 minutes, and come out and modify their deflector dish to emit a particle wave that would allow them to fully scan the wreck and beam everyone in it directly to sickbay.
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I’m glad he’s dead, killed by his own hubris in the cold vacuum of space should be the fate of all mansplainers. I am 100% serious and I’m founding a crowd funded space agency to accomplish this. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
They all went to a beautiful farm up-quadrant.
One way to look at his death is that while the subtext can be seen as mansplaining you can also just see it as a arrogant snob who is always butting heads with everyone. One of the good things about Sci-Fi when written well is the audience can bring their own view to something. I bet if we see this guy again in fan fiction or a novel for example he will be just as arrogant to Spock. This should be how everyone can enjoy this scene and the funny death whether they are liberal,moderate or conservative.
Jason
Jason
That’s what mansplaining is. It’s a man arrogantly telling a woman something she either already knows or is more informed about that him, almost always after she’s made it clear she knows what she’s talking about. It’s quite common in real life.
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modsplaining done right
modsplaining done right
Is it still Mansplaining if he does the same thing to another man?
Honest question I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just curious.
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