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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

On your... laptop???? Do you also watch Netflix on your flip-phone?

DVD was the first acceptable home viewing experience (provided you have a widescreen TV). VHS was an insult to the filmmaker. They film a beautiful movie, just how they wanted it, and here come the editors for home cinema to "format it for your screen".
How about you respect other people's decisions rather than belittle them for not choosing to consume their media the way you think "the filmmakers intended" and just let it go?
 
On your... laptop???? Do you also watch Netflix on your flip-phone?

DVD was the first acceptable home viewing experience (provided you have a widescreen TV). VHS was an insult to the filmmaker. They film a beautiful movie, just how they wanted it, and here come the editors for home cinema to "format it for your screen".
I enjoy films my way. Sorry if that offends... :shrug:
 
How about you respect other people's decisions rather than belittle them for not choosing to consume their media the way you think "the filmmakers intended" and just let it go?
Why don't you respect my decision to call out other people's invalid way of watching films?
 
If I'm on a flight, and they don't have any good in-flight movies available, then I'm going to watch something on my laptop or tablet. Up close, it looks just fine. It's probably bigger than the stupid little screen on the seat in front of me, anyway. :rolleyes:

Kor
 
Almost. You are missing tons of the detail. And on VHS you will often be missing the corners, since those were sometimes in FS.
Almost doesn't justify the expense for me. I watching the movie for the characters and story not the details of the pixels.

This does not render different formats "invalid" way of watching a film. You watch films the way you want and I will watch them the way I want. IDIC and all that. :beer:
 
Almost doesn't justify the expense for me. I watching the movie for the characters and story not the details of the pixels.

This does not render different formats "invalid" way of watching a film. You watch films the way you want and I will watch them the way I want. IDIC and all that. :beer:
The very first VHS tape I ever owned was Star Trek V. I wore the film out watching it over and over on my 13" color TV. I have seen it on VHS, on DVD, and on Blu-ray, and not once have I regretted seeing it on VHS. Yes, the quality is inferior to Blu-ray, the little 13" TV doesn't hold a candle to a 40" LED HDTV, but it does not change the positive memories, and not once did I think to myself "this wasn't the way filmmakers intended for it to be seen!"

Hell, I'll watch it right now on VHS just to get that old feel of seeing it for the first time again. Doesn't bother me.

The fact is not everyone can afford a 4K TV, nor the media that plays best on it. Even during the days when DVDs were at their height, I owned a great many VHS tapes, and watched them on my (at the time) 19" standard definition TV. The cost of DVDs, and HDTVs were insanely high, and far beyond my reach. I swapped VHS tapes with friends, and that's how I saw movies I couldn't afford to see in theaters.

All of that aside, some people like to watch movies on their tablets, or on their phones. Some must have it on a 70" UHD TV in 8K with 7.1 channel surround, and then there are the people who watch it on their computers because it's easier for them to access. None of these is an invalid way to watch your favorite movies and TV shows. What fits you best is what works best. All of this talk of "how the filmmakers intended" is silly, because not everyone can go see it in the theater and then carry the theater home with them.
 
Personally, I'm happy with 1080p. Maybe in a year or two I'll upgrade, as 4K is getting cheaper.

Kor
It is getting cheaper, but unless I get right up on the TV, and it has to be a really big TV, I can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. For me, there's also the issue of diminishing returns. How much clarity is enough when I can already see the painted wood of the console when watching Star Trek: The Original Series? When I can tell where the stage next to Charleton Heston ends, and the special effects cutouts of the workyard where Seti's obelisks are being built begins? That's not to say 4K doesn't have its upsides. I've seen nature shows that are nothing short of jaw dropping on a UHD TV, and I'm sure the latest movies would look wonderful on such a display, but it's nowhere near a priority, especially since 1080p still looks terrific.
 
It is getting cheaper, but unless I get right up on the TV, and it has to be a really big TV, I can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. For me, there's also the issue of diminishing returns. How much clarity is enough when I can already see the painted wood of the console when watching Star Trek: The Original Series? When I can tell where the stage next to Charleton Heston ends, and the special effects cutouts of the workyard where Seti's obelisks are being built begins? That's not to say 4K doesn't have its upsides. I've seen nature shows that are nothing short of jaw dropping on a UHD TV, and I'm sure the latest movies would look wonderful on such a display, but it's nowhere near a priority, especially since 1080p still looks terrific.
Good points. It's just that I'm getting to a point where I might like a larger TV in the next couple years. It would be getting into a size range where I could tell the difference between 4K and 1080p, and would be about the same price that I paid for my current 1080p HDTV.

Kor
 
I can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 4K.

Yeah, this just KILLS me inside every time I watch a movie :-( I bought a 4k TV right before HDR became the standard, and HDR is really the game changer with new TVs. So I am really not getting the best version of the movie on my TV since it doesn't support HDR. Honestly, I spend half my time imagining what the movie would look like on a better TV and with a better sound system.

I can't even imagine what I'd do watching VHS these days.
 
Yeah, this just KILLS me inside every time I watch a movie :-( I bought a 4k TV right before HDR became the standard, and HDR is really the game changer with new TVs. So I am really not getting the best version of the movie on my TV since it doesn't support HDR. Honestly, I spend half my time imagining what the movie would look like on a better TV and with a better sound system.

I can't even imagine what I'd do watching VHS these days.
Different strokes...
 
Good points. It's just that I'm getting to a point where I might like a larger TV in the next couple years. It would be getting into a size range where I could tell the difference between 4K and 1080p, and would be about the same price that I paid for my current 1080p HDTV.

Kor
True, the price is dropping fast. My parents almost bought a 4K HDTV because the price was something like $400 and it was a 55" deal. So yeah, the prices are becoming reasonable.

Yeah, this just KILLS me inside every time I watch a movie :-( I bought a 4k TV right before HDR became the standard, and HDR is really the game changer with new TVs. So I am really not getting the best version of the movie on my TV since it doesn't support HDR. Honestly, I spend half my time imagining what the movie would look like on a better TV and with a better sound system.

I can't even imagine what I'd do watching VHS these days.
VHS is quite tolerable, even on an HDTV. While it's not my preferred format of choice, there are still videos I watch on it. I have the Star Trek 25th Anniversary Special on VHS, and I like to drag that out from time to time and get all full of nostalgia.

Again, not for me. I'd rather just enjoy the film, not imagine what I'm missing.
Yep. When I saw Star Trek (2009) in theaters, I was blown away. Theaters are an extreme rarity for me, so I just enjoyed the show.
 
55” 4K set. Just upgraded to UHD. I love it. Enough detail change from Blu-Ray for me. We do a lot of our video streaming so buying a 4K disc is a very special occasion. And I do not intend to upgrade all of my titles. But just because I do it that way doesn’t mean I question anyone else’s choices for watching a movie. If they want to watch it on VHS on a 13” black and white tube set with tinny audio, that’s their business.
 
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