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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

That version of the film is no more an "original" version than the currently available cut is, but nice try.

There is about... 1 person on the internet that actually believes that, and it's you. Well, even you don't believe that, but it seems that you're feeling extra hungry today. However, this will be your last feeding from me.
 
That version of the film is no more an "original" version than the currently available cut is, but nice try.

Okay, so there are multiple iterations of Star Wars. Fine. With today’s home video technology, it is more than possible to allow for similar versions to exist on the same disc. I foresee a 4-disc set with the original cuts through 1995 with the various audio mixes and subtle changes to the video on disc one. Then a second disc with the various special editions and a third and fourth with bonus features.

But I’m sure you’ll find something to nitpick here, so have at it!
 
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God. Good point. But then there’s also the people who aren’t huge fans. I always think of fans and fandom as slightly different.

You think it’ll do well?

I honestly don't know, but I do know either way we'll still be arguing about it in thirty years time :)
 
There is about... 1 person on the internet that actually believes that, and it's you. Well, even you don't believe that, but it seems that you're feeling extra hungry today. However, this will be your last feeding from me.

You really don't know jack, dude.

The information I have relayed came straight from someone who is extremely well-connected when it comes to the inner workings of the SW franchise and who has been given several private tours of the Lucasfilm archives.

The fact of the matter is this: there is no such thing as an "original theatrical cut" of any of the original Star Wars Trilogy films, and what people want when they talk about an "original cut" of said films differs wildly from person to person.

You ranting against me and calling me a fool isn't going to change that, but you are right about one thing: we're done having a conversation. You can continue clamoring for something that doesn't actually exist, and I'll move on to other topics.
 
You really don't know jack, dude.

The information I have relayed came straight from someone who is extremely well-connected when it comes to the inner workings of the SW franchise and who has been given several private tours of the Lucasfilm archives.

The fact of the matter is this: there is no such thing as an "original theatrical cut" of any of the original Star Wars Trilogy films, and what people want when they talk about an "original cut" of said films differs wildly from person to person.

You ranting against me and calling me a fool isn't going to change that, but you are right about one thing: we're done having a conversation. You can continue clamoring for something that doesn't actually exist, and I'll move on to other topics.

Oh you're no fool, you know exactly what you're doing. You've been playing the same character on here for years.
 
They sold the trilogy about ten years ago with one disc showing the special edition and another with the original theatrical, although that might just have been in the UK. I don’t think you can get them now, and the theatrical release DVDs don’t work in many modern machines.

Just seems like a relatively easy cash grab to do the same sort of thing now. Not all fans will buy, but I feel quite a few would like to watch Han shoot first or a non-CGI Jabba’s palace.

I honestly don't know, but I do know either way we'll still be arguing about it in thirty years time :)

Wonder if I can make it to Fleet Admiral by then...
 
They sold the trilogy about ten years ago with one disc showing the special edition and another with the original theatrical, although that might just have been in the UK. I don’t think you can get them now, and the theatrical release DVDs don’t work in many modern machines.

These came out in the US as well. I own them secondhand (missing the case for ROTJ). I think I managed to get all three a few years back for about $80 in total. The issue is not that they don’t work in modern machines but that the video quality is pretty crappy to begin with (I know, some people don’t care about that) and viewing it on a 1080p or 4K rig does not always show the best results. I haven’t looked at them since we upgraded to 4K. I should do that.
 
These came out in the US as well. I own them secondhand (missing the case for ROTJ). I think I managed to get all three a few years back for about $80 in total. The issue is not that they don’t work in modern machines but that the video quality is pretty crappy to begin with (I know, some people don’t care about that) and viewing it on a 1080p or 4K rig does not always show the best results. I haven’t looked at them since we upgraded to 4K. I should do that.

It goes into ‘letterbox mode’. The film plays with a huge black border around it. My TV is 55 inches and it still wasn’t worth watching.
 
They sold the trilogy about ten years ago with one disc showing the special edition and another with the original theatrical, although that might just have been in the UK. I don’t think you can get them now, and the theatrical release DVDs don’t work in many modern machines.

Just seems like a relatively easy cash grab to do the same sort of thing now. Not all fans will buy, but I feel quite a few would like to watch Han shoot first or a non-CGI Jabba’s palace.



Wonder if I can make it to Fleet Admiral by then...

What was released on that DVD set was not the "original theatrical cuts" of the OT, because as I've already pointed out, such a cut of the Trilogy doesn't exist.

The versions of the Trilogy released on that set were "ports" of the Trilogy cuts that were released on Laserdisc, but calling them "original theatrical cuts" is and was disingenuous.
 
These came out in the US as well. I own them secondhand (missing the case for ROTJ). I think I managed to get all three a few years back for about $80 in total. The issue is not that they don’t work in modern machines but that the video quality is pretty crappy to begin with (I know, some people don’t care about that) and viewing it on a 1080p or 4K rig does not always show the best results. I haven’t looked at them since we upgraded to 4K. I should do that.
Yeah, they were lazy rips from the laserdiscs. Not even anamorphic.

Kor
 
There is about... 1 person on the internet that actually believes that, and it's you. Well, even you don't believe that, but it seems that you're feeling extra hungry today. However, this will be your last feeding from me.
Dude, can we not be hostile?
 
Sometimes hostility is the only way to get a point across. This isn't a misunderstanding type of situation - this is a very particular poster who has been rude to everyone for years.

Agree. Antagonistic throughout this thread and elsewhere, which is why I don’t engage. To be fair, there’s no point in fighting hostility with hostility.

Don’t give in to hate. That leads to the Dark Side.
 
That’s right! Been awhile since I thought about those.

These discs are proof that there is a market for "despecialized" editions of Star Wars. Even though they are awful transfers of the not quite original cut, they are now highly collectible and sell for almost $100 for some used DVDs. A real 4k or at least Blu Ray release would sell very very well.

There is a site that lets you get fan restorations of 35mm Star Wars releases. I don't know if it's quite piracy since they never received a cease and desist for Lucasfilm, but I think it's kind of borderline, so I won't be posting any links here. If interested, feel free to Google for it though - it's quit interesting. They have a full 4k restoration of a 35mm print that cost them over $10,000 to produce.

EDIT: Story about those DVDs - I had no idea that they were collectible and listed mine for $25 on eBay. I was shocked when they sold in under 30 seconds. Turns out I sold for at least $50 too little!
 
These discs are proof that there is a market for "despecialized" editions of Star Wars. Even though they are awful transfers of the not quite original cut, they are now highly collectible and sell for almost $100 for some used DVDs. A real 4k or at least Blu Ray release would sell very very well.

There is a site that lets you get fan restorations of 35mm Star Wars releases. I don't know if it's quite piracy since they never received a cease and desist for Lucasfilm, but I think it's kind of borderline, so I won't be posting any links here. If interested, feel free to Google for it though - it's quit interesting. They have a full 4k restoration of a 35mm print that cost them over $10,000 to produce.
Of course there is a market. There has been one since DVD came out. Whether or not it is enough to justify it to LFL (it certainly wasn't to Lucas) is the question. And, I'm doubtful that they will.
 
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