News Georgiou Section 31 Series officially announced:

[caliginous]

I’d have preferred a prime universe Georgiou.

Bit bored of prequals

Section 31 is one of the weaker elements of Trek.

 

[Dukat's Major]

It could be a good show. My big concern is it’s going to be like “24 in space” with a message that “Empathy is weakness when security is at stake”. Which is the exact opposite of the point of Trek and exact opposite of message we need right now.

Yeah, this. I know that shows lionizing FBI/NSA/chooseyouracronym agents are all the rage right now, but I don't exactly consider that a good thing, nor do I consider giving into the nationalistic fervor that tends to turn a blind eye to problematic "security" institutions very much in concord with the Trek universe. Unless they plan to subvert it, somehow. But it's really hard to keep viewers interested in a show if its main characters aren't sympathetic, so it's difficult to see how the writers will be able to credibly flesh out this show if it isn't somehow sympathetic to section 31. I'll take a look at it, anyway, to see what they do.

 

[fireproof78]

Georgiou is Hitler in space basically. A genocidal racist, who actually goes to the next level and even eats her subjects and has slaves.

This is the 'character' they are trying to glorify and redeem? Lol. That's way beyond the abilities of these showrunners and writers.

"Beyond the ability" doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile to explore.

If Star Trek is about humanity growing and evolving then here is an opportunity to actually put that in to practice rather than just paying lip service to it.

 

[Terok Nor]

This could be good but it's unlikely to have the optimism of Star Trek since its based around a shady organisation led by a genocidal, cannibalistic psycho

I did like Mirror Georgiou but I can't visualise her as the main character in a Star Trek show. It should've been the other Georgiou but unfortunately she's dead.

Im sure I'll end up enjoying this since I like Michelle Yeoh and the premise but it doesn't scream Star Trek to me right now. Doesn't mean it can't be great in its own right. A lot of people said DS9 wasn't Star Trek but it was brilliant.

 

[Delta Vega]

Clearly CBS are going toward having at least one and possibly two Star Trek shows on at all times of the year but they need to be careful that they don't reach saturation point with so much Star Trek, its bound to affect the writing as well with so many scripts needed and the plotlines may end up suffering for it.

Also they need to make sure they aren't scraping the barrel when it comes to ideas, they seem to be grabbing at anything they can at the moment to try and make something out of it.

I can understand a show set around S31 is appealing as it has never really been covered and it makes sense that Starfleet would have their own clandestine organisation to fight the Tal'Shiar and Obsidian Order in the shadows, I do also appreciate that some will not be happy about it as it will truly make S31 a legitimate part of the Star Trek universe.

I am all for having a couple of shows per year as long as they are strong enough to stand on their own, I hope CBS knows what its doing because Netflix isn't going to be so generous with funding a second time around.

The biggest danger is that CBS may actually start to think they can attempt the unthinkable, doing a reboot of ToS (I wouldn't have an issue with it but I know some will), at this rate they will have covered everything else and with the 4th Film no longer moving forward we could eventually see a recast Kirk on the TV to go along with the recast Spock.

Discovery could easily lead into a recast ToS show unless they stick with following the Enterprise before Kirk takes over, if that happens we are talking reboot territory.

Its a slippery slope.

I've long said that a recast Star Trek using the original characters is the way forward, and I stick to that opinion.
I don't see how that can be a bad thing.
Much rather 4 or 5 years of 16 episode seasons of this than cartoons, Academy shit, Section 31, or dare I say it, an old past his prime Picard.

 

[SolarisOne]

I've long said that a recast Star Trek using the original characters is the way forward, and I stick to that opinion.

Hard pass. One TOS is more than enough for me.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I've long said that a recast Star Trek using the original characters is the way forward, and I stick to that opinion.
I don't see how that can be a bad thing.
Much rather 4 or 5 years of 16 episode seasons of this than cartoons, Academy shit, Section 31, or dare I say it, an old past his prime Picard.

If all you want from Trek is a nostalgia party, Seth MacFarlane has you covered.

TV shows have tried to redeem irredeemably awful characters before. Remember Ben Linus? All the things he did, people accepted it when he became a good guy in the last season. People love redemption and atonement stories. If they take an approach where Georgiu is first biding her time waiting for her opportunity to take over but then starts analyzing herself from a nature versus nurture perspective, it could be interesting. If they do make her good, and actually manage to earn it, it could be spectacular. The question is whether they have writers up to the task.

 

[Delta Vega]

I'm not looking for a nostalgia party
A reboot of Star Trek with modern photography and CGI is the way forward
Hell, as people have already said, Discovery is already teeing us up for Enterprise under Pike, so Kirk and crew are a natural progression from there.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah, I'd be more interested in another Trek show about Kirk and Spock than in any of the crap Kurtzman has been coming up with. That's a pretty low bar to get over, though.

Yeoh is better than this kind of project; I think she still has the potential of growing success in the movies ahead of her. I'm confident that her agent has seen to it that this little excursion will be worth her time in the interim.

 

[T'Bonz]

As always, I'll give this a chance. And I hope it's good.

So much Trek these days. And to think in 1971 that I thought that I had come too late to the party.

 

[eschaton]

I think a full on TV reboot of TOS would only be a good thing if the primary purpose was to try and purge Trek canon of the aspects which were silly/dated (alien species with no common descent interbreeding, lack of AI any more advanced than today, etc) and make something which would be closer to what we would recognize as hard sci-fi.

I don't think it will be feasible to rewrite old Trek episodes unless/until they become public domain though. Otherwise they'd need to give the original writers (or more likely their families) compensation, and hire someone to rework the scripts for a modern audience.

 

[tomalak301]

With all these series being announced, there is still a large amount of time that has never been explored, which is the time between Star Trek 6 and The Next Generation. How about a series with the Romulans leading up to the Treaty of Algernon. Heck, that's where the section 31 series should go. Then you can recast a younger version of Pressman and we really can develop the Romulans and the Tal shiar better.

 

[Terok Nor]

I would also like to see a series set between Star Trek 6 and TNG but if they're going to wedge in a load of stuff that doesn't need to be like the Orc Klingon War then I'd rather they didn't bother.

 

[Tosk]

I'll certainly give Section 31 a fair shake, but I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic about it.

 

[Dukhat]

I would also like to see a series set between Star Trek 6 and TNG but if they're going to wedge in a load of stuff that doesn't need to be like the Orc Klingon War then I'd rather they didn't bother.

I agree. I would love to see a show that takes place between TUC and the events of "Yesterday's Enterprise." But apparently that ship has sailed in favor of TPTB thinking we want to see old Picard and a show about some psychopath and her psychopath organization.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree. I would love to see a show that takes place between TUC and the events of "Yesterday's Enterprise." But apparently that ship has sailed in favor of TPTB thinking we want to see old Picard and a show about some psychopath and her psychopath organization.

That's what's popular.

 

[Dukhat]

That's what's popular.

I'm not sure I'd go that far.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm not sure I'd go that far.

That's what's talked about over and over again.

Better?

 

[Dukhat]

That's what's talked about over and over again.

Better?

Not really.

 

[STEPhon IT]

I'll certainly give Section 31 a fair shake, but I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic about it.

You don't have to, CBS is sure to prime the Trek pump as much as it can, just like it's other formulaic series such as JAG, & CSI.