What Has Discovery Added To Star Trek Lore?

[Kane_Steel]

What's your point? On STD, they straight up wear the Black Badges in public to identify themselves as Section 31 to everyone.

That's continuing into Season 2 as well based on the trailer.

 

[Amaris]

What's your point? On STD, they straight up wear the Black Badges in public to identify themselves as Section 31 to everyone.

That's continuing into Season 2 as well based on the trailer.

There's precedent, in Star Trek, for a covert organization to wear identifying clothing or items that make it clear they're part of a covert organization. The Secret Service, for a real life example, is often seen and easily identified. That being said, what does any of this have to do with what lore Discovery has added to Star Trek?

 

[Kane_Steel]

I don't think DSC "messed with it" either. If anything, it showcased even more of Sarek's psyche and his reaction to Spock's choice.
Nothing is "necessary" as far as Star Trek goes. So, that argument is rather moot.
I just see it as adding to the lore, and thus, answering your OP

'Nothing is necessary' could be used to justify anything really.

As for SFDebris, well, it's his opinion after all.

Thanks for stating the obvious. So that's your reaction when someone's opinion that you value disagrees with you.. 'just his opinion' interesting.

 

[Kane_Steel]

There's precedent, in Star Trek, for a covert organization to wear identifying clothing or items that make it clear they're part of a covert organization. The Secret Service, for a real life example, is often seen and easily identified. That being said, what does any of this have to do with what lore Discovery has added to Star Trek?

Were they wearing the black uniforms in public to identify themselves as Section 31? Nope.

The closest justification you'd have for that is ST Enterprise, and even that shitty show did a better job keeping them covert.

 

[Mudd]

Um, that was a Donner party situation where the Klingons were starving to death. At no point, was this established as a common Klingon custom.

Except that not many folks who out of desperation violate the kinds of cultural taboos we have against cannibalism would then boast about doing so to taunt their enemies, as if it somehow enlarges them or makes them appear intimidating. Even as a rationalization it doesn't ring true, sorry.

 

[Amaris]

Were they wearing the black uniforms in public to identify themselves as Section 31? Nope.

The closest justification you'd have for that is ST Enterprise, and even that shitty show did a better job keeping them covert.

Is this about adding to Star Trek lore?

 

[Tuskin38]

They didn't go back and mess with anything from Journey to Babel. The movies just showed Sarek's reaction to Spock's death, and TNG showed Spock's reaction to Sarek's death. Wasn't any 'bending' of canon as the STD writers often love to put it.

It adds to it, it doesn't bend it. Nothing in that episode contradicts Sarek's relationship to Spock in TOS or TNG.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Um, that was a Donner party situation where the Klingons were starving to death. At no point, was this established as a common Klingon custom.

Humans can and would do the same thing under the circumstances. Did the Donner Party or the Andes survivors violate "canon" by having humans eat corpses? Did those incidents mean that humans routinely eat corpses all the time? Of course not.

Anyway, I see that this isn't actually a thread about talking about what interesting new details DISCO may have added to the Star Trek universe. Too bad. That would have been more interesting than just another sarcastic list of grievances.

To try to answer the question for real, I think the Kelpians are a notable addition to the Trek universe, and I'm hoping DISCO will keeping on adding news species and worlds, to go along with the Andorians and Cardassians and Trills and so on.

Klingon cannibalism was actually introduced in Season 1 of TNG during "Heart of Glory".

"KORRIS: Brother, I knew you would come. (Worf climbs the ladder) Now I, we have a chance. I could not do it alone, but I would rather die here, than let the traitors of Kling pick the meat from my bones. With you it will work."

I guess Georgiou being eaten was a posthumous punishment for her, representing the Shenzhou crew which had disgraced their dead, because of her orders.

If Georgiou had survived she would have also been killed and eaten. Even if the Klingons weren't starving.

 

[Tuskin38]

Klingon cannibalism was actually introduced in Season 1 of TNG during "Heart of Glory".

Pretty sure that line is being metaphorical.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The was a sale on black leather at the Men's Warehouse.

 

[fireproof78]

'Nothing is necessary' could be used to justify anything really.

Yup. That's the point.

Thanks for stating the obvious. So that's your reaction when someone's opinion that you value disagrees with you.. 'just his opinion' interesting.

I'm always interested in others opinions. I do not agree with Chuck on this point regarding Discovery or Georgiou. I don't need anyone to agree with me, much less someone on the internet whom I do not know and who does not know me.

I have stated my opinions fairly clearly regarding what Discovery has added to Star Trek lore, which, in my opinion, has had more positive than negative. Since there is plenty of individuals voicing the negative I will voice the positive.

 

[Lord Garth]

It added the Crossfield Class Starship and made Ralph McQuarrie's design into more than just space debris in "The Best of Both Worlds".

It also opened up the 23rd Century, so that time period is not just synonymous with TOS.

 

[fireproof78]

It added the Crossfield Class and made Ralph McQuarrie's design into more than just space debris in "The Best of Both Worlds".

Well, it can't all be positive

 

[thribs]

It added the Crossfield Class Starship and made Ralph McQuarrie's design into more than just space debris in "The Best of Both Worlds".

It also opened up the 23rd Century, so that time period is not just synonymous with TOS.

I think you are forgetting Star Trek III.

 

[Lord Garth]

I think you are forgetting Star Trek III.

"An omission." It was playing hide-and-seek, partially hiding behind a corner in Spacedock.

 

[DigificWriter]

@Kane_Steel, you keep claiming that the black badges publicly identify Section 31 as being Section 31, but that's an assumption that isn't actually based on anything in the series itself.

 

[marsh8472]

But still in the context of lore, i.e. have the additions to lore been positive or negative. You're answering a different question.
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here's how discovery adds to star trek lore

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[Tuskin38]

@Kane_Steel, you keep claiming that the black badges publicly identify Section 31 as being Section 31, but that's an assumption that isn't actually based on anything in the series itself.

There's evidence in the latest Season 2 trailer.

here's how discovery adds to star trek lore

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You can make videos like this for all the TV series and movies, not just Discovery
This means squat all.

 

[thribs]

I don’t think that is a replicator like the ones they use in the 24th century. That’s like a precursor to one.

 

[Nerys Myk]

here's how discovery adds to star trek lore

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Hilarious. The first thing Janeway mentions is "no plasma weapons". I guess she missed the class on the 23rd Century attack on the Earth Outposts along the Romulan Neutral Zone by a Romulan ship using a plasma weapon.