What Has Discovery Added To Star Trek Lore?

[zar]

They showed two streams while a Klingon was urinating.

I can’t believe I just wrote that sentence.

Oh, forgot about that. But you know, not everybody keeps their genitals in the same place.

Maybe in season 3 we'll have Seth MacFarlane as a guest writer and get a plot centered around Klingon penises to fully clarify the issue. Imagine the shit show that would cause.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Klingons only ate Georgiou because they ran out of food.

They essentially say that in the episode.

They never imply in the show at all that it’s something they do regularly.

There’s a deleted scene that makes their showed how desperate their solution really was. L’Rell kills a dying Klingon that Voq doesn’t want to, and than suggests they eat him because of the lack of food. Voq tells her no.

Technically, the Klingon double penis still hasn't been confirmed. Lorca made a snarky comment and wasn't corrected on it, but until we see the bioscans it could still be a human (or Terran) misconception, right?

We kind of saw it in the season finale.

it's overwriting and contradicting stuff from the original show

Very little. Nothing major.

 

[XCV330]

Oh, forgot about that. But you know, not everybody keeps their genitals in the same place.

Maybe in season 3 we'll have Seth MacFarlane as a guest writer and get a plot centered around Klingon penises to fully clarify the issue. Imagine the shit show that would cause.

It's pretty clear what they were trying to convey in that scene and Lorca's taunt to L'Rell.
I know people like to get into minutiae to try to twist any minor factoid to their slant in Trek, but there's no getting around it: it's canon. Klingons have doublejohnson.

You can try to rise above it and say it was to show just how much Voq gave up to penetrate the security of Discovery, and while those arguements aren't entirely flaccid, their ability to lead to more fecund discussions is of half-masted utility at best.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

They showed two streams while a Klingon was urinating.

I can’t believe I just wrote that sentence.

Maybe one penis but two pee-holes?

 

[Jadeb]

Maybe one penis but two pee-holes?

Don’t ask or Discovery may feel compelled to give us the answer.

 

[Tuskin38]

The double-member doesn't contradict anything from previous series. In fact, I think in TNG it's mentioned that Klingons do have some redundant organs, they just never specify which.

 

[zar]

It's pretty clear what they were trying to convey in that scene and Lorca's taunt to L'Rell.
I know people like to get into minutiae to try to twist any minor factoid to their slant in Trek, but there's no getting around it: it's canon. Klingons have doublejohnson.

You can try to rise above it and say it was to show just how much Voq gave up to penetrate the security of Discovery, and while those arguements aren't entirely flaccid, their ability to lead to more fecund discussions is of half-masted utility at best.

Oh there's no question "they" wanted it, but as always their intent isn't canon until everyone consents to banging out a story where it's explicitly revealed - that's the thrust of my argument.

 

[XCV330]

Don’t ask or Discovery may feel compelled to give us the answer.

somewhere in the show bible it mentions spinning and magic fungus

 

[DigificWriter]

I want to do two things here. First, I want to address each of the below "additions", and then I want to add some of my own:

As we approach Season 2 and meet the TOS Enterprise....sort of, it's a good time to look back at Discovery S1 and consider what it has added to Star Trek lore.

The additions I've noted from Discovery S1 are;

- Giving Spock an adopted human sister

Sarek and Amanda never formally adopted Michael; she is simply their foster daughter.

- The Mushroom Spore Drive, which is public knowledge. Harry Mudd even knows about it.

As others have already said, the Spore Drive's development isn't "public knowledge".

- The magic Mycelial Network aka the force

How you got an analogy to "the force" out of the Mycelial Network (which is based on an actual astrological theory, I might add), is beyond me.

- Making Section 31 into a more well-known organization within Starfleet

It didn't, and they're not.

- The Klingon War with massive human casualties

Star Trek lore keeps expanding. That's the nature of storytelling.

- Klingons eating their enemies

As already noted, this isn't anything new, but, as was pointed out, the Klingons only ate Georgeiu because they were starving, so we don't actually know with 100% certainty that this is something they do regularly.

Now, some additions:
1) Arne Darvin is not the first Klingon to undergo transformation surgery

2) Mirror Universe Humans have a light sensitivity problem that ends up being cleared up by 2265

3) Sarek didn't speak to Spock for 18 years not because he joined Starfleet, but because of his own personal shame at having robbed Michael - due to Spock's choices - of the opportunity to serve in the Vulcan Expeditionary Force, something she had both earned and wanted

 

[fireproof78]

More depth to Sarek, and expanded upon his relationship with Spock.

More depth to Klingons, including ship design, the 24 great houses, and their culture in general.

Greater variety in Starfleet ship design and equipment previously only speculated about.

More alien species to explore.

As always, I'm excited to see more Trek.

 

[Mudd]

Ugly starship designs?

Not a unique or new contribution.

 

[cultcross]

Sarek didn't speak to Spock for 18 years not because he joined Starfleet, but because of his own personal shame at having robbed Michael - due to Spock's choices - of the opportunity to serve in the Vulcan Expeditionary Force, something she had both earned and wanted

This was one of my favourite Discovery additions. Given the established lore of Vulcans post Journey to Babel and Sarek's canonically established love for humans and for Spock himself, him being angry about Spock joining Starfleet for its own sake never made a lot of sense and seemed merely petty. Discovery has made it more poignant.

 

[Starfury]

somewhere in the show bible it mentions spinning and magic fungus

"Let's try spinning, that's always a good trick"

 

[Amaris]

It's pretty clear what they were trying to convey in that scene and Lorca's taunt to L'Rell.
I know people like to get into minutiae to try to twist any minor factoid to their slant in Trek, but there's no getting around it: it's canon. Klingons have doublejohnson.

You can try to rise above it and say it was to show just how much Voq gave up to penetrate the security of Discovery, and while those arguements aren't entirely flaccid, their ability to lead to more fecund discussions is of half-masted utility at best.

 

[DaveyNY]

Not to drag out and extend this intercourse but,
While engaged in my nightly grind at the hospital through the years, I have on many an occasion, observed fellows with unique phallus problems that have often times included two spurting streams.
Though it almost always involved some sort of disfigurement or birth defect rather than two distinct schlongs.

 

[Mudd]

This was one of my favourite Discovery additions. Given the established lore of Vulcans post Journey to Babel and Sarek's canonically established love for humans and for Spock himself, him being angry about Spock joining Starfleet for its own sake never made a lot of sense and seemed merely petty. Discovery has made it more poignant.

The elaboration of Sarek's motivation here was clever and made intuitive sense. He didn't really blame Spock; he felt guilt and Spock didn't get that.

 

[cultcross]

Not to drag out and extend this intercourse but,
While engaged in my nightly grind at the hospital through the years, I have on many an occasion, observed fellows with unique phallus problems that have often times included two spurting streams.
Though it almost always involved some sort of disfigurement or birth defect rather than two distinct schlongs.

 

[zar]

Not to drag out and extend this intercourse but,
While engaged in my nightly grind at the hospital through the years, I have on many an occasion, observed fellows with unique phallus problems that have often times included two spurting streams.
Though it almost always involved some sort of disfigurement or birth defect rather than two distinct schlongs.

 

[marsh8472]

As far as season 1 goes... In terms of money and entertainment, perhaps some people are amused by all the action and visuals and the show will be successful because of that. But from an in-story point of view it's not the show of optimism and positive role-models that previous generations grew up with when watching star trek.

 

[Tuskin38]

As far as season 1 goes... In terms of money and entertainment, perhaps some people are amused by all the action and visuals and the show will be successful because of that. But from an in-story point of view it's not the show of optimism and positive role-models that previous generations grew up with when watching star trek.

I think you need to re-read the thread title, it's talking about Lore.