That's easy, the Hobus star sits on a previously unknown subspace fissure. That gives it all the excuse it needs to have all sorts of fun super-luminal properties.
Picard series confirmed post-Romulus
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That's easy, the Hobus star sits on a previously unknown subspace fissure. That gives it all the excuse it needs to have all sorts of fun super-luminal properties.
Don't forget that it had a deuterium core and naturally occurring dilithium crystals in the lithosphere.
Star Trek: Picard
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Star Trek: Jean-Luc Picard
JLP?
I doubt they are going to call it with something that doesn't have Picard in the name. Star Trek: 2399, Star Trek: 25th Century Adventures? Nah..
They may dump Star Trek from the title. Especially if there won't be a lot of trekking through the stars. They may just call it Picard. That would not be half bad idea either.
Ha-ha. Yeah. I'm sure they can find any number of 'reasons' to explain it if they want to. But I honestly don't think they will really spend a lot of time on it. Just that it happened and here is the result.
But everyone's pointing out various storylines that can result. I think it proves the point that the destruction of Romulus most definitely does not have to be a dead end. In fact, it can be the starting point of any number of stories, as a lot of people here have pointed out.
The rumor I had heard was that it was "Star Trek: Destiny." The title was also listed in a copyright filing. I was hoping for "The Jean-Luc Picard Adventure Hour"
I'm pretty sure Star Trek will be in the title. They tried Enterprise without Star Trek and abandoned the idea. Now, I know the circumstances were different, but they won't chance it. They'll want people to know this IS a Star Trek show. With the popularity of Discovery, and the prior Abrams movies, Star Trek in the title is more a plus then a minus these days and they'll want to market it.
I think it more likely it will be one of the names CBS has already trademarked like Star Trek: Destiny.
Actually, the Klingons did make peace to survive and the Federation helped them through that disaster after the conspiracy was thwarted. Here the disaster happened and I bet some of the Romulans would be bitter about Spock failing to save Romulus and if the Romulans found they were tricked into the Dominion War, a bet a lot Romulans would adopt a kill or die stance towards the Federation. Plus the Romulans would lack a formal government structure, unlike the Klingons in TUC, with many officials dying on Romulus. I also do not think there would a unified Empire anymore, it would split into different factions, most likely a hardline faction that wants to rebuild the Empire and a dove faction that wants peace and to resettle on Vulcan.
Then the series will already be disappointing. Why bring it up if not to remark on how completely bizarre and near impossible it was. Not spore hopping the multiverse fucking insane, but still.
Well what I was referring to was Chang and his group. Point is, the crux of that story was about the internal conflict within the Empire, on whether a military solution or diplomatic solution was best. I would like to see the Romulans just full stop attempt peace. Seeing them as the peaceful side would be an interesting approach.
Yes, you're right, the success or failure of the show rests on their scientific explanation of the destruction of Romulus. A single line of technobabble will give you what you need, if you want it. Invent it in your head if you must.
Yes, Trekkies are a fickle bunch. On the one hand some criticize the Berman era Trek for too much technobabble. But then they want a scientific explanation for why something happened.
For me, I like a balance. I don't mind a certain amount of technobabble if it helps advance the plot and make it seem more scientific in nature (something that separates Star Trek from Star Wars). But it shouldn't dominate the story.
If they put a line in that the nova spread because of a subspace fissure or some cosmic string phenomena for instance, fine. Not a big deal. But I don't think the show's success will ride on that.
That would not make sense and wouldn't be very dramatic, why would all Romulans agree to be peaceful, why would some not be bitter about Spock failing to save their world? Romulans are not a hive mind, some would want peace and some would want to return to the old ways, all the Romulans wanting peace after this wouldn't make sense, its not the Cardassians who were devastated by the Dominion and now have to turn to the Federation for help, the Cardassians were given a reason to change, the Romulans did not suffer a disaster that cannot blame on someone else like the Cardassians did, they can totally try to blame Spock and the Federation for this.
Why would all Romulans assume peace is the only way to survive, some would assume that rebuilding the Empire is the only way to survive and try to annex any non-warp easy prey planet they can find. Different Romulans will have different ideas on what surviving means.
This would be different because it's not a conflict within the Empire, its Empire has been split in two, I can see the hardliners be bold enough to try to attack Vulcan just to kill the refugees.
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SPOILERS FOR SOME OF THE EXPANDED BOOKS AND COMIC SERIES BELOW.
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So they have decided to jump forward that far and make the collapse of the Romulan Star Empire canon, its pretty risky stuff as there are quite a few books out there covering the 2380's with Riker/Troi on the Titan, Ezri/Bashir on the Aventine and Kira/Odo on the new DS9 such as the Destiny series to name just one as well as various comic series.
It wont jump far enough for us to see the Odyssey class though which is a shame, if it is set in 2399 as has been reported then Martok will be dead if it sticks to the STO timeline but it will be too soon to see the Enterprise F.
Plenty of potential for guest stars from TNG, DS9 and Voyager, Restored Data/B4 would be one example or maybe Worf, he could have returned to Starfleet or still be acting as the Head of House Martok, he may even have found himself a new ball and chain.
There is bound to be a bunfight over the Romulan territory, doubt the Cardassians will dare though, most likely it will be carved up between the Klingons and Federation, we could even see Reunification with the remaining Romulans going home to Vulcan to keep their species alive, the mirror image of what happened in the Kelvinverse although much later timewise.
The show could be about Picards search for the cause of the Supernova which we know wasn't natural, I will die laughing if Picard has joined S31 to investigate the events surrounding it as I know how much some members of the forum would just love that.
Will Picard be an Admiral, Commander in Chief Starfleet or a Civilian as I doubt he will still be a Captain, could it follow the Countdown Comic Mini Series with Data now in command of the Enterprise and Picard as Ambassador to Vulcan.
It could get a bit tricky as the events in STO, the Countdown Comics and the Destiny series are all mutually exclusive.
Plus there will be Transwarp and Quantum Slipstream Drives in use by the Klingons and Starfleet at the very least.
Actually tricky is an understatement it looks more like a minefield to me but they could use this show as a precursor to create even more shows set in the 25th century if it is well received.
Personally I suspect it will just cause arguments like usual.
P.S There will probably be diagrams as well.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
So they have decided to jump forward that far and make the collapse of the Romulan Star Empire canon, its pretty risky stuff as there are quite a few books out there covering the 2380's with Riker/Troi on the Titan, Ezri/Bashir on the Aventine and Kira/Odo on the new DS9 such as the Destiny series to name just one as well as various comic series.
It wont jump far enough for us to see the Odyssey class though which is a shame, if it is set in 2399 as has been reported then Martok will be dead if it sticks to the STO timeline but it will be too soon to see the Enterprise F.
Plenty of potential for guest stars from TNG, DS9 and Voyager, Restored Data/B4 would be one example or maybe Worf, he could have returned to Starfleet or still be acting as the Head of House Martok, he may even have found himself a new ball and chain.
There is bound to be a bunfight over the Romulan territory, doubt the Cardassians will dare though, most likely it will be carved up between the Klingons and Federation, we could even see Reunification with the remaining Romulans going home to Vulcan to keep their species alive, the mirror image of what happened in the Kelvinverse although much later timewise.
The show could be about Picards search for the cause of the Supernova which we know wasn't natural, I will die laughing if Picard has joined S31 to investigate the events surrounding it as I know how much some members of the forum would just love that.
Will Picard be an Admiral, Commander in Chief Starfleet or a Civilian as I doubt he will still be a Captain, could it follow the Countdown Comic Mini Series with Data now in command of the Enterprise and Picard as Ambassador to Vulcan.
It could get a bit tricky as the events in STO, the Countdown Comics and the Destiny series are all mutually exclusive.
Plus there will be Transwarp and Quantum Slipstream Drives in use by the Klingons and Starfleet at the very least.
Actually tricky is an understatement it looks more like a minefield to me but they could use this show as a precursor to create even more shows set in the 25th century if it is well received.
Personally I suspect it will just cause arguments like usual.
P.S There will probably be diagrams as well.
For all we know, Spock Prime only imparted part of the story to nuKirk in the ST09 sequence. For all we know maybe Picard and the Enterprise we're also involved in some way in trying to save Romulus, and the failure to do so is what caused him to retire from Starfleet etc, etc.
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If it is that will mean they could follow the Destiny book series but that would be the one where Kirk comes back from the dead I think (haven't read them myself), it states a legendary captain and he is the only one I can think of, do they actually have the balls to make that canon as that would mean he is alive during 2399.
No. He did return in the Shatnerverse novels and the Borg were featured there, but it was a different continuity. Kirk did not appear in Destiny, in the normal litverse continuity he is still dead. Destiny was a mega novel trilogy that featured Captain Picard and the Enterprise, along with Captain Ezri Dax and the Aventine, Captain Riker and the Titan, and even Captain Chakotay and Voyager. It also featured Captain Hernandez and the Columbia from Enterprise.
I'm not reading too much in the title Destiny if that is used. It may very well be coincidence, though I wouldn't rule it out either as it was an excellent novel trilogy.
I'd highly recommend reading it. It was one of those I can't put it down book trilogy. It delves into the Borg's creation and what their future holds (I won't say more because it would spoil it).
The drama would come from the Klingons, Cardassians, etc. who argue/fight over what to do with the remains of the Romulan Empire. The Federation wants to help, but needs resources from their allies. The allies say "I don't want to share resources with an Empire that has been sworn enemies for centuries" some argue they don't want to help refugees because they need to support their own people first (sound familiar?).
As for bitterness over Spock, ST09 already explored that angle, I'm not interested in retreading that ground, as realistic as it might be.
Oh noo. Does it mean Picard will die at the end?
First the total defeat of Cardassia and then the destruction of Romulus. It's going to be interesting to see how the Picard show is going to deal with the aftermath.
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