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Picard series confirmed post-Romulus

And there may not be a series villain at all. Just because Discovery went that route does not mean the nu-TNG show will. Individual episodes may have a villain, but at this point there's no reason to assume there will be 'one villain' the show focuses on. In fact, with Discovery on the air they may very well want to take this show down a different road.
I would expect them to do so, both because of TNG's popularity and because of Patrick Stewart.

In any case, I am happy if there are more Romulans because they are an alien race that we didn't get to see a whole lot of. But, I'm more thinking that there will be previously unknown aliens who lived in Romulan space but had not contact outside of that.
 
I would expect them to do so, both because of TNG's popularity and because of Patrick Stewart.

In any case, I am happy if there are more Romulans because they are an alien race that we didn't get to see a whole lot of. But, I'm more thinking that there will be previously unknown aliens who lived in Romulan space but had not contact outside of that.

That could be true to. It just goes back to at this point we can't make too many assumptions about the upcoming show. Romulans may play a prominent part, they may never be seen again after the show is established, or something in between. Or some other species. Or maybe it won't be villain-centric at all. It's fun to speculate with the limited information but we may all be wrong. It may end up being the butler's fault after all ;)
 
And there may not be a series villain at all. Just because Discovery went that route does not mean the nu-TNG show will. Individual episodes may have a villain, but at this point there's no reason to assume there will be 'one villain' the show focuses on. In fact, with Discovery on the air they may very well want to take this show down a different road.

Personally some of my favorite episodes are the ones with no villain: Cause & Effect, The Inner Light, The Visitor, Flashback, Disaster, Relics, Blink of An Eye, Parallels, Far Beyond The Stars...

Problem solving episodes, character dramas, explorations of the heart/soul. Hopefully this show can give us some of that in addition to whatever larger story plays out.
 
Of course it's post-Romulus destruction. When else would it possibly take place?

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It started up thread when Rahul was complaining that they had the destruction of Romulus brought up at all. I think he wanted it dropped altogether, as in Romulus still exists at the time of the nu-TNG show and ignoring what was depicted in Star Trek (2009) as far as the future goes.
 
Personally some of my favorite episodes are the ones with no villain: Cause & Effect, The Inner Light, The Visitor, Flashback, Disaster, Relics, Blink of An Eye, Parallels, Far Beyond The Stars...

Problem solving episodes, character dramas, explorations of the heart/soul. Hopefully this show can give us some of that in addition to whatever larger story plays out.

Yeah, and with Discovery doing a lot of the conflict and villain episodes, they may decide they want nu-TNG's show to have a different focus. Not to say there will never be a villain, I'm sure there will be at least from time to time, but based on the comments the show will be focused on Picard mostly.
 
I think Kurtzman including the events of the Kelvin Trek film in this show and making them a focal point is less about canon, and more about his ego.
 
That could be true to. It just goes back to at this point we can't make too many assumptions about the upcoming show. Romulans may play a prominent part, they may never be seen again after the show is established, or something in between. Or some other species. Or maybe it won't be villain-centric at all. It's fun to speculate with the limited information but we may all be wrong. It may end up being the butler's fault after all ;)

Given what we know, we can only talk about our preferences of what the show should be about.

I am just saying personally I think this should be about Picard's skill as a diplomat in the face of the destruction of Romulus and the fate of the remaining Romulans and in my mind it would make sense there would be a faction of hawks and a faction of doves, with the dovish Romulans wanting to resettle on Vulcan, which is not an easy task. The hardline Romulans would be antagonist force, but they wouldn't be there all the time. This is a test of Picard as a diplomat, not as some action hero, maybe some younger captain can defeat a psychopathic Romulan admiral or something, but Picard wouldn't be doing that, we do not need to go back to action hero Picard.

I would like see some more Romulans in recurring roles and not only as a villain in the series but also as normal people, having Picard meet with the leader of the peaceful Romulans, we can see poor Romulans in refugee camps, maybe even a Romulan joins Star Fleet.

If none of that happens, that's fine, but I think there is an interesting with the fate of the Romulans.

Personally some of my favorite episodes are the ones with no villain: Cause & Effect, The Inner Light, The Visitor, Flashback, Disaster, Relics, Blink of An Eye, Parallels, Far Beyond The Stars...

Problem solving episodes, character dramas, explorations of the heart/soul. Hopefully this show can give us some of that in addition to whatever larger story plays out.

And there are also great episodes with villains in them: Best of Both Worlds, Chains of Command, key Dominion War episodes, the Xindi Arc, Arnea, Day of the Dove, Waltz, Space Seed, Errand of Mercy, Yesterday's Enterprise, Balance of Terror, etc and there have been terrible episodes without villains in them, like Twisted or the Loss, you can pick good and bad episodes from any category.

What I am saying is, I hope this show puts more focus on Picard as a diplomat (Picard being 80 and still stumbling into spacial anomalies while commanding the Enterprise wouldn't make sense), but diplomacy needs to be a challenge and if all the Romulans agree to be peaceful at once, that is both unrealistic and kinda dull. That doesn't mean we need to see a hawkish Romulan admiral in every episode, some episodes would be the challenges of caring for these Romulan refugees and I like to see more heroic Romulans, maybe a Romulan can join Star Fleet, Picard can become friends with the leader of the Romulans who want to settle on Vulcan. Star Fleet may have save these Romulans from the hardliners, but that is not the focus of every episode. But that is just what I want to see.
 
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Given what we know, we can only talk about our preferences of what the show should be about.

I am just saying personally I think this should be about Picard's skill as a diplomat in the face of the destruction of Romulus and the fate of the remaining Romulans and in my mind it would make sense there would be a faction of hawks and a faction of doves, with the dovish Romulans wanting to resettle on Vulcan, which is not an easy task. The hardline Romulans would be antagonist force, but they wouldn't be there all the time. This is a test of Picard as a diplomat, not as some action hero, maybe some younger captain can defeat a psychopathic Romulan admiral or something, but Picard wouldn't be doing that, we do not need to go back to action hero Picard.

I would like see some more Romulans in recurring roles and not only as a villain in the series but also as normal people, having Picard meet with the leader of the peaceful Romulans, we can see poor Romulans in refugee camps, maybe even a Romulan joins Star Fleet.

If none of that happens, that's fine, but I think there is an interesting with the fate of the Romulans.

Yep, and that's just as possible. It's fun to speculate. I do it myself. On the litverse thread and how the show will impact the ongoing relaunches there's a lot of speculation as well. I honestly don't know what the impact will be and like everyone else, I'm parsing every word they've said about the show looking for clues, and am probably no where near where they are headed.

It does sound like Picard will be in another phase of his life. In the Countdown comics I remember reading he was an ambassador. It's possible they decide to run with that thread which would support your comment. Even in the novels, at one point he contemplated life after Starfleet, and perhaps as a nod to the comic story mentioned diplomacy. Now, they haven't run with that as of yet, but it's out there for the future.
 
Clearly the Romulans are going to ask Picard to be the head of their new government because of his relation to Shinzon.
Maybe they'll get Tom Hardy to return!
Yes, build on the worst Star Trek movie this side of Star Trek V. Yes, do that please :rolleyes:
 
Yes, build on the worst Star Trek movie this side of Star Trek V. Yes, do that please :rolleyes:

I don't think Burnham was serious. I think it was a joke (though sometimes it's hard to tell--maybe you're joking too).

But then I was one of the 10 people, well, you know ;)
 
I don't see that at all. Rather, I see it as Kurtzman continuing the Prime timeline based on his own contribution to it. Like it or not, he got to make his mark and it is what it is.

Given how poorly the Kelvin franchise turned out (it's dead now), is it really worth revisiting and focusing upon? I think he is placing more value on his 'mark' than it actually deserves.

This is gonna be another divisive Trek show, especially with a beloved character like Picard in play, brace yourselves.
 
I think Kurtzman including the events of the Kelvin Trek film in this show and making them a focal point is less about canon, and more about his ego.
No.

And this proves how fractured Trek fandom can be. "Reference more continuity!"

Writers: "Like this?"

"No, that's too much. How dare you reference that film!?"

Seriously, can we make up our minds about how much referencing we want Star Trek to do to past iterations of itself? Or better yet, just reboot the stupid thing and stop the nostalgia train!

Given how poorly the Kelvin franchise turned out (it's dead now), is it really worth revisiting and focusing upon?
It made plenty of money. Don't confuse Paramount's mismanagement with a lack of interest in that part of the franchise.

Short answer-yes, Kelvin Universe is worth revisiting. It has as much value as revisisting Picard.
 
It has made disappointing amounts of money and poor ROI, given the budgets of those films and the profit margins. Beyond actually lost the studio money, it was a flop.

Beyond and the diminishing returns of that film proved there was a lack of interest in the Kelvin material. Started strong in 2009, and died out. Not just poorly handled by Paramount, but also by the creatives behind the films.
 
I'm glad they're referencing it, otherwise it'd be a huge elephant in the room if they'd chosen to ignore it. An event of that magnitude isn't something to be ignored, and the effects would be felt all over. In the universe itself, it creates a displacement that will likely affect technological and economical forces. The destruction of Romulus was a catalyst for NuTrek, therefore it only seems fair game that those events are felt in the Prime.
 
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Honestly, it just baffles the mind they make a big return of Picard, and they chose the friggin' Romulans as the main baddies again....

Like, there is no Trek baddie more vanilla then them! On TNG they were essentially used anytime they needed an enemy, but not a serious enemy. Hell, even in their only(!) prime movie appereance as badguys ("Nemesis"), they got swapped out for a bald guy with space vampires as underlings to be the actual threat!

Hell, I'd rather watch the return of the Borg again then having the Romulans be the new Klingons again....

Nothing in that article says or implies that the Romulans are the antagonists.

Given how poorly the Kelvin franchise turned out (it's dead now), is it really worth revisiting and focusing upon? I think he is placing more value on his 'mark' than it actually deserves.

This is gonna be another divisive Trek show, especially with a beloved character like Picard in play, brace yourselves.

CBS considers the supernova to be part of Prime Universe Canon history, any TV series/movie/novel/comic/game set after it would have acknowledged it even if Kurtzman wasn’t involved.
 
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