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What The Heck?....That Makes No Sense.

That it was dangerous and uncommon was a major plot point. They should have at least mentioned that in Discovery. Instead they do it without a second thought.

I hate STD, but to be fair, there was no logic in saying that intraship beaming would be dangerous. All beaming requires pinpoint precision. The shorter the distance, the safer it should be.

The ST franchise has a long history of saying that something being newly introduced was a huge deal to undertake, only to have it turn out fine, and quickly become routine. The first mind meld ("Dagger of the Mind") was going to be dangerous. Telling an outworlder about ponn farr was forbidden ("Amok Time"). Kirk's wildest of longshot risks always pay off. Saucer separation at warp speed worked just fine ("Encounter at Farpoint"). Flying through the barrier at the center of the galaxy proved painless (Star Trek V).

Intraship beaming in "Day of the Dove" was just another case of starting out with breathless hype and worrying about later stories later.
 
Since it makes no sense for intraship beaming to be dangerous for the reasons outlined by the heroes, we must do the job of the writers here anyway, and decide between

a) it being dangerous overall to beam intraship, but for other reasons that Spock fails to properly provide, and
b) it only being dangerous to beam intraship when the ship is careening out of control at unsafe velocities.

"It has rarely been done because of the risks involved" might just as well be read as "It is commonly done whenever there are no risks involved".

It wasn't just for Kirk and Spock to save their own hides. Kirk got the idea to get to the weapons right away and stop the slaughter of Zeons. Waiting around in the cell for an hour wouldn't have helped save any Zeons.

I really can't see one hour mattering there, either - basically because we can see it makes no difference, as Kirk achieves absolutely nothing in that hour yet. Sure, Spock seems to be saying that with the two phasers, the duo could defeat the entire armies of the planet with ease, but it seems more realistic to assume Kirk would need the help of his ship for the task. Waiting for Scotty to arrive would seem the prudent course of action.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Getting rid of doorknobs is not a good idea in the future, especially if the power reserves are depleted!!! :hugegrin:
JB
 
The ST franchise has a long history of saying that something being newly introduced was a huge deal to undertake, only to have it turn out fine, and quickly become routine. The first mind meld ("Dagger of the Mind") was going to be dangerous. Telling an outworlder about ponn farr was forbidden ("Amok Time"). Kirk's wildest of longshot risks always pay off. Saucer separation at warp speed worked just fine ("Encounter at Farpoint"). Flying through the barrier at the center of the galaxy proved painless (Star Trek V).

Intraship beaming in "Day of the Dove" was just another case of starting out with breathless hype and worrying about later stories later.

Good point. I love TOS, but, yes, the dialogue tended to be pitched at very high level, just to generate excitement.

"It's like nothing we've ever encountered before, Captain."
 
In light of this, it's rather amazing that our TOS heroes treated none of their technology as new and amazing. The magic of phasers, transporters, warp drives and tricorders just... was there, and elicited at most complaints when the audience might have expected gasps of wonderment.

TNG tried the other route with suggestions that holodecks would be new, amazing and potentially dangerous. Turned out they were old, humdrum and yes, very dangerous, so dangerous that nobody cared any longer... The "novelty" dialogue should sit well with audiences that buy new TV sets every five years or so to catch the newest improvements. :devil:

Timo Saloniemi
 
In the process of watching any TOS episode, did you ever question why a character said or did something that was borderline ridiculous?

I'll start off.......in Miri, Kirk picks up a tricycle and then hands it to Spock, who looks like he's thinking, "What the heck?......"

How can the Enterprise's shields absorb the equivalent of 90 photon torpedos in The Channeling? Look how much damage a few did to the Klingons in Elaan of Troyius.

In The Alternative Factor Kirk dismissing McCoy as likely to be telling jokes about important matters in a time of Federation wide crisis. Although Shatner reads the scene well.
 
All beaming requires pinpoint precision. The shorter the distance, the safer it should be.

Perhaps transporters are farsighted. To beam within the ship you need to use the special "reading glasses" mode. More seriously, it occurs to me that the transporter emitters are aimed away from the hull (one would assume), so they would have to beam backwards through themselves to materialize someone not on the pad inside the ship.
 
Perhaps transporters are farsighted. To beam within the ship you need to use the special "reading glasses" mode. More seriously, it occurs to me that the transporter emitters are aimed away from the hull (one would assume), so they would have to beam backwards through themselves to materialize someone not on the pad inside the ship.

That's really good. Spock was right. I should have had more faith. :bolian:
 
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