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What The Heck?....That Makes No Sense.

But no one was asking them to anyways, Commish! Plus I doubt the inhabitants would have felt it anyways! :hugegrin:
JB
 
In the Corbomite Maneuver teaser, Spock expends a lot of energy shouting orders around the bridge. Then he tells Bailey "Quite unnecessary to raise your voice, Mr. Bailey." :ack::crazy:

The difference between Shouty Spock and S3 Spock is very noticeable. On the one hand, real people in the workplace have been known to change that much, but it usually happens at the beginning of a career. For Spock to have 13 years under his belt and still mature or mellow so much after that, is a less common occurrence.
 
The Naked Time: Accessing the door controls by carefully cutting thru a bulkhead near sensitive parts, slowly, gingerly, using a carefully drawn template, so as not to cause a small explosion, even though the ship is about to crash in mere minutes - when they could have just cut thru the damn DOOR!!

I take it you have never tried to crack a safe?

That really is the only reasonable way to do it. Cutting through the lock requires, oh, ten inches of cutting work here. Making a man-sized hole in the door requires ten times that. It would be idiotic to try and cut through the door when the job can be finished so much sooner by attacking the lock.

We get no impression that the cutting would be faster, in terms of inches per second, if done on a less explosive surface. Cutting through bulkheads by using rayguns as blowtorches is always slow going, requiring the actors to hold those ridiculous poses where they almost point their phaser props the right way for the better part of a minute even in the quickest case.

In "Patterns of Force," Kirk and Spock are fitted with subcutaneous transponders so the Enterprise can keep track of them even if they lose their communicators. Seems like a good idea, which kinda makes you wonder why this wasn't standard procedure?

I'd worry more about the utter failure of the heroes to use the things the way they said they should be used. They are for beam-up if capture is apparent. The heroes get captured. Why aren't they beamed up?

Letting the natives see a beam-up is unlikely to be any more harmful than letting them see an improvised death ray in action...

What the heck indeed!

Timo Saloniemi
 
Scotty knew it was part of Kirk's "Cunning Plan" to get captured and subsequently get in with the underground so Scotty left Kirk and Spock to get tortured in prison.;)
 
I take it you have never tried to crack a safe?

That really is the only reasonable way to do it. Cutting through the lock requires, oh, ten inches of cutting work here. Making a man-sized hole in the door requires ten times that. It would be idiotic to try and cut through the door when the job can be finished so much sooner by attacking the lock.

We get no impression that the cutting would be faster, in terms of inches per second, if done on a less explosive surface. Cutting through bulkheads by using rayguns as blowtorches is always slow going, requiring the actors to hold those ridiculous poses where they almost point their phaser props the right way for the better part of a minute even in the quickest case.



I'd worry more about the utter failure of the heroes to use the things the way they said they should be used. They are for beam-up if capture is apparent. The heroes get captured. Why aren't they beamed up?

Letting the natives see a beam-up is unlikely to be any more harmful than letting them see an improvised death ray in action...

What the heck indeed!

Timo Saloniemi

The Enterprise was still an hour away, and Kirk and Spock needed to get out of that cell immediately and get to their weapons.

Kor
 
Five words: "One to the fourth power."

:rofl:

Kor

I was bothered by that for many years, but then it hit me: Kirk doesn't mean the numeral one. He means it as shorthand for one unit of loudness. So whatever the sound is measured as, that figure will be raised to the fourth power. It's a badly written line, but not beyond explanation.
 
The Naked Time: Accessing the door controls by carefully cutting thru a bulkhead near sensitive parts, slowly, gingerly, using a carefully drawn template, so as not to cause a small explosion, even though the ship is about to crash in mere minutes - when they could have just cut thru the damn DOOR!!
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
just blow the whole damn door out, the damage is trivia considering the alternative.
 
A classic one is any alien is just allowed to roam around the ship freely.The constant flipping between metric and imperial measurements, usually using imperial. Im guessing this was done for the viewers because very few people back then knew about the metric system in the US.
 
"What a stupid place to hang a mirror!" Lt. Galway in The Deadly Years.

For most of my life, I agreed with that statement until I got married and my wife hangs a mirror by the front door so she can check her hair before leaving the house. So...I guess that statement no longer holds true for me.
 
The Enterprise was still an hour away, and Kirk and Spock needed to get out of that cell immediately and get to their weapons.

Why? The nice Nazi has given them an hour of free time already. And he isn't going to get less nice at the end of that hour, either - unless Kirk and Spock refuse to talk. But why would they do that? They could talk like it was standup night at Club Filibuster, and be beamed to safety in mid-sentence, with the Nazis none the wiser. It's not as if the Nazis are in any real hurry, or will give up on torturing the heroes in just one additional hour and move on to needlessly killing them.

The idea that Scotty has to leave in the first place, supposedly to hide from the 1930s-1940s level tech of the Ekosians, is dubious to begin with, contradicted by the ship hiding well within transporter range from 1960s tech in another episode. But we can excuse that by saying the heroes have already recognized the Zeon tech the Ekosians stole as being more advanced than Earth's 1960s sensor systems, and not easily defeated by mere shield-tuning trickery. Or something.

But the basic idea of checks at three-hour intervals is sound: if the Space Nazis were to just plain execute their prisoners in that short a time, they would have done so in the first three minutes already.

I was bothered by that for many years, but then it hit me: Kirk doesn't mean the numeral one. He means it as shorthand for one unit of loudness. So whatever the sound is measured as, that figure will be raised to the fourth power. It's a badly written line, but not beyond explanation.

Actually, it's a fairly well-written line: that's how sound is traditionally measured, in decibels. Nobody explicates powers of ten there.

just blow the whole damn door out, the damage is trivia considering the alternative.

What would suggest that the door should be blowable? If the wall can resist Scotty's torch, then surely the door can, too. Starship bulkheads aren't supposed to be walk-through or kick-in or blow-away. (Indeed, the walls of the E-D and DS9 are shown to be completely phaserproof in many a firefight! It's just that Kirk's redshirts miss less often so we don't get many examples of the phaser beams testing the integrity of the walls of NCC-1701.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
Why? The nice Nazi has given them an hour of free time already. And he isn't going to get less nice at the end of that hour, either - unless Kirk and Spock refuse to talk. But why would they do that? They could talk like it was standup night at Club Filibuster, and be beamed to safety in mid-sentence, with the Nazis none the wiser. It's not as if the Nazis are in any real hurry, or will give up on torturing the heroes in just one additional hour and move on to needlessly killing them.

The idea that Scotty has to leave in the first place, supposedly to hide from the 1930s-1940s level tech of the Ekosians, is dubious to begin with, contradicted by the ship hiding well within transporter range from 1960s tech in another episode. But we can excuse that by saying the heroes have already recognized the Zeon tech the Ekosians stole as being more advanced than Earth's 1960s sensor systems, and not easily defeated by mere shield-tuning trickery. Or something.

But the basic idea of checks at three-hour intervals is sound: if the Space Nazis were to just plain execute their prisoners in that short a time, they would have done so in the first three minutes already.
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It wasn't just for Kirk and Spock to save their own hides. Kirk got the idea to get to the weapons right away and stop the slaughter of Zeons. Waiting around in the cell for an hour wouldn't have helped save any Zeons.

Kor
 
The only 23rd century doorknob seen in TOS was on the door to injured Pike's room.

It's not a doorknob, but there is a door handle in this episode.....

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Looks like the Flintstones' door or something. Man is Kirk's tunic shrunk in that Conscience pic.
 
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