I think I'm going to have to ask for a raise then.We all work for CBS. Every single person who votes 7 or above is a plant. It's the only explanation as to why people don't see the truth about how bad everything is.
Spoilers Star Trek: Short Treks 1x02 - "Calypso"
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I could say this episode was sweet and touching, and a perfect little standalone mini adventure. I could say the idea of Discovery/Zora being alive reminds me very much of what Doctor Who did with the TARDIS in the Matt Smith era, and also reminded me of Moira, the Enterprise's AI in the Diane Duane novels.
But instead I will just say: Hey @Tuskin38 DISCOVERY'S HOLOGRAMS ARE SOLID I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking. It may not be the 33rd century when the short takes place. The ship may have been sent back in time and is hidden, waiting for the crew to retrieve it at the proper time in the 2250s.
I haven't enjoyed any of these shorts so far.
I haven't enjoyed any of these shorts so far.
Nah it's the future, that's been confirmed.
A really lovely episode. Nothing terribly revolutionary, but just simply a nice short story, with a short story feel. The usual suspects will of course get up in arms about setting it 1,000 years hence, but really, as was said above, if people are offended in some way by this little story, they probably should just give up. Because there's no winning if that's the battle you're choosing.
It was nice to see a completely new character, and an element that felt, if even in a very small way, like "hard" sci fi.
It was nice to see a completely new character, and an element that felt, if even in a very small way, like "hard" sci fi.
33rd century is the lower limit. It's possible, albeit unlikely, that the Discovery was abandoned in the 24th, 25th, and so on century, but the new shuttle kind of belays that idea.
I'm an old-timer from back when STAR TREK was on NBC (hence the avatar). I've been mostly lukewarm about a lot of modern Trek, particularly the Abrams-era movies. The casting is great in those, but the feel of STAR TREK has been missing.
Last month's Tilly SHORT TREK was somewhat cute, but nothing special. This month's "Calypso" was truly exceptional. This one really felt like it belonged in the STAR TREK family.
Most of DISCOVERY has been OK in my book. Some of it kind of hits the wrong notes, but overall I've enjoyed it and look forward to S2. I've even got the Blu-ray of S1 arriving tomorrow.
Last month's Tilly SHORT TREK was somewhat cute, but nothing special. This month's "Calypso" was truly exceptional. This one really felt like it belonged in the STAR TREK family.
Most of DISCOVERY has been OK in my book. Some of it kind of hits the wrong notes, but overall I've enjoyed it and look forward to S2. I've even got the Blu-ray of S1 arriving tomorrow.
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Voted an 8 on this short Trek ep: it was very good - love it’s touching vignette quality and also very intrigued by Zora, this future, and Discovery’s situation in this episode.
Looking forward to seeing what else Chabon does with the Picard series also!
Voted an 8 on this short Trek ep: it was very good - love it’s touching vignette quality and also very intrigued by Zora, this future, and Discovery’s situation in this episode.
Looking forward to seeing what else Chabon does with the Picard series also!
They really do build starships to last. NX-01 lasted 100 years in "E2", the Discovery lasts 1000 years here... yet they keep retiring ships after a decade or two
This is assuming it really was 1000 years. We don't know that for sure. Zora might not know exactly how long she was out there. Her programming could have been altered, or maybe she was "computer senile" like Holly from Red Dwarf.
She could even have been lying to Craft - intentionally exaggerating how long she's been alone so he will be more amenable to staying with her.
She could even have been lying to Craft - intentionally exaggerating how long she's been alone so he will be more amenable to staying with her.
Lasting long and still being state of the art and competitive with other starship are two different things. The USS Constitution and HMS Victory are still afloat, but you wouldn't take them into battle today.They really do build starships to last. NX-01 lasted 100 years in "E2", the Discovery lasts 1000 years here... yet they keep retiring ships after a decade or two
Now there are hundred year old classes of ships still in service in Starfleet, like the Oberth, Miranda, and Excelsior, but those undergo frequent upgrades to remain technologically competitive and up to the standards of the day.
I imagine the Discovery is in tip-top shape because it has done nothing whatsoever for the last 1000 years (outside of deflecting things, I gather, and occassional sensor sweeps) in the middle of the vacuum of space. The minisode implied that the Discovery lacked warp capability (Craft pushed to use a shuttlecraft to return home, not the Disco itself, even if it had orders not to leave), which to me implies some degradation in its propulsion systems and maybe communication systems.
Zora must have built and installed those little Siri-like avatars, so she probably had a way of maintaning her systems and trying to clean up (although, given the dust on the bridge, that doesn't always work).
Remember, Zora literally IS the Discovery. There's not a system on the ship she doesn't control. So if she doesn't want to move, then Craft can't make her move.
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Using warp eats at her power reserves.
The more power she has, the longer she can "wait" or "guard" or whatever she is doing.
Yes she must have methods for "collecting" power externally, but she still has to create power at a faster rate than she is spending it, or she is really dead in space.
They can't regenerate Dillithium yet.
The 1st short showed it was recently invented. We do not know when the discovery was abandoned. So it could have that ability
Not in the Federation.
Po may have come up with a method to recrystallize dilithium, but I doubt that her people shared it with outsiders (there's no indication that Xahea was a member of the Federation).
The Federation won't discover how to recrystallize dilithium until the events of ST IV - 30 years after DSC.
The enemy Craft was fighting was the Federation
Fair enough. But once more, we do not know when she was abandoned. She is newer than the Enterprise, so very well could be around 30 years later.
Weird.
I was referencing Relics, when Geordie claimed that regenerating dilithium was too futuristic for Scottie to know about... But Scotty invented the dang proccess.
Joke or mistake?
Perhaps neither. Maybe Geordi just didn't know.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Like I said, the V'draysh don't actually have to BE the Federation. They could have just appropriated the name. We know the V'draysh were seriously into relics from the past - maybe this was one of them.
For all we know, the real Federation is still out there after all this time. Indeed, we know they exist in the 30th century, because of Daniels from ENT, so it's not a stretch to suppose they can last into the 33rd. I mean, what's a measly 300 years in the grand galactic scheme of things? Any organization that can last for 800 years can easily endure for another 300.
Hell, the Federation may not even know about the "Calypso" conflict, or who the V'draysh are.
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