Spoilers Supernatural season 14
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I don't know about anyone else...but tonight's show seemed...a little too familiar. The Fred Jones reference was a nice continuity callback, but if they aren't going to reverse Metatron's spell I'm not interested in allusions to season 8. The callback to the early season with the Djinn (I remember that one but not which season it was), on the other hand, was definitely a nice touch. Beyond that, the ending with Apocalypse Bobby going off to the cabin with Mary seemed like a re-hash of pretty much every "but now I must go" story they've done in the last few years. This felt like a 100% filler story.
I will say one thing: they're definitely dragging out the A-story about Michael's master plan too much. Between last week, this week, and now seemingly next week, we're getting three filler shows without much attention on our main plot, which bothers me. Yes they tried to tie in the Djinn with the main action by saying he was enhanced like the vamps and werewolves, but it got so little attention it might as well have not happened.
Please, please, please...let me be wrong about next week. I'd love to see Apocalypse Charlie making a concrete contribution to the fight against Michael instead of just helping ice another MotW.
I will say one thing: they're definitely dragging out the A-story about Michael's master plan too much. Between last week, this week, and now seemingly next week, we're getting three filler shows without much attention on our main plot, which bothers me. Yes they tried to tie in the Djinn with the main action by saying he was enhanced like the vamps and werewolves, but it got so little attention it might as well have not happened.
Please, please, please...let me be wrong about next week. I'd love to see Apocalypse Charlie making a concrete contribution to the fight against Michael instead of just helping ice another MotW.
Due to news coverage of the Thousand Oaks shooting and brush fires Supernatural isn't airing tonight in Los Angeles. The episode will air Saturday night at 8 p.m.
This seemed on the surface a filler episode, but it really told a lot of stories.
First, Bobby and Mary. I think that's a good pair. And it's really interesting how he had a son in the alternate world... makes him even more nuanced.
Second, Sam leading the Hunters. That role suits him incredibly well, and I'm glad he is still doing it. He is training them really well, and I thought it was about time Hunters updated some of their tactics... check-ins and bodycams. That bodycam idea is genius... a training tool AND clues when a hunt goes wrong.
And I am glad they are keeping these Hunters around. We have seen a LOT of them killed over the seasons, so many it seemed like they were becoming an endangered species, almost extinct. But I'm glad that is being tackled... I think the first brick that laid the foundation of this was back in season 8's "FREAKS AND GEEKS". I always felt that should have been followed up. We have that now.
The Michael storyline seems to be sort of backburnered for the moment, but I think the writers are doing a slight reverse of their typical strategy... middle of the season is where we tend to get the "filler" episode, while big leaps of the main arc in the beginning and end of a season. Looks like the "filler" ones are being done toward the beginning of this season, so maybe the arc will kick into full gear toward the middle.
Anyway, nice callbacks to previous situations... Fred Jones, the djinn Dean encountered at the end of season 2.
I enjoyed it!
First, Bobby and Mary. I think that's a good pair. And it's really interesting how he had a son in the alternate world... makes him even more nuanced.
Second, Sam leading the Hunters. That role suits him incredibly well, and I'm glad he is still doing it. He is training them really well, and I thought it was about time Hunters updated some of their tactics... check-ins and bodycams. That bodycam idea is genius... a training tool AND clues when a hunt goes wrong.
And I am glad they are keeping these Hunters around. We have seen a LOT of them killed over the seasons, so many it seemed like they were becoming an endangered species, almost extinct. But I'm glad that is being tackled... I think the first brick that laid the foundation of this was back in season 8's "FREAKS AND GEEKS". I always felt that should have been followed up. We have that now.
The Michael storyline seems to be sort of backburnered for the moment, but I think the writers are doing a slight reverse of their typical strategy... middle of the season is where we tend to get the "filler" episode, while big leaps of the main arc in the beginning and end of a season. Looks like the "filler" ones are being done toward the beginning of this season, so maybe the arc will kick into full gear toward the middle.
Anyway, nice callbacks to previous situations... Fred Jones, the djinn Dean encountered at the end of season 2.
I enjoyed it!
Decades of torture in hell, his demon self, residual memories from Michael, thousands of deaths inflicted and witnessed, take your pick.
This was a good episode with some good character moments and an interesting mystery where things were not as they seemed, thanks to Michael. Maggie, the new Hunter from the other universe who was resurrected by Lucifer, went after what seemed to be a Ghoul, but turned out to be something else entirely-- she was captured and Sam and Dean went to the rescue, as did Mary and Bobby on their own.
Maggie was actually barely in it, spending most of her couple of scenes dangling from her toes. The guest character had more screen time and was of a very familiar and unpleasant type, but she got to receive some advice from Dean on how to deal with a less-than-ideal father, with the implication that there might be a reconciliation.
The Ghoul turned out to be the return of the Djinn from a few seasons ago, now super-sized thanks to Michael's plot to take over the world or reduce the world to chaos or whatever he's trying to do. There was a very interesting moment when the Djinn went into Dean's head to seize his nightmares, but recoiled in pain or terror-- was it because of everything that Dean has been through (e.g. thirty years in Hell) or because of something Michael left behind? Or because Michael is still in there?
But the main development in this episode was with Mary and Bobby. Bobby's nightmare was his dead son from the alternate universe, which he was loathe to share with Mary, and this was keeping them apart. But by the end of the episode their coupledom is official and they are off on sabbatical to a remote cabin (belonging to Sheriff Jodie or Sheriff Donna, I forget which) while Bobby recovers and they work on their relationship. I would have much preferred that Mary become a regular part of the team, like Cass or Jack, but I can live with her showing up only occasionally-- as long as they don't kill her off!
Maggie was actually barely in it, spending most of her couple of scenes dangling from her toes. The guest character had more screen time and was of a very familiar and unpleasant type, but she got to receive some advice from Dean on how to deal with a less-than-ideal father, with the implication that there might be a reconciliation.
The Ghoul turned out to be the return of the Djinn from a few seasons ago, now super-sized thanks to Michael's plot to take over the world or reduce the world to chaos or whatever he's trying to do. There was a very interesting moment when the Djinn went into Dean's head to seize his nightmares, but recoiled in pain or terror-- was it because of everything that Dean has been through (e.g. thirty years in Hell) or because of something Michael left behind? Or because Michael is still in there?
But the main development in this episode was with Mary and Bobby. Bobby's nightmare was his dead son from the alternate universe, which he was loathe to share with Mary, and this was keeping them apart. But by the end of the episode their coupledom is official and they are off on sabbatical to a remote cabin (belonging to Sheriff Jodie or Sheriff Donna, I forget which) while Bobby recovers and they work on their relationship. I would have much preferred that Mary become a regular part of the team, like Cass or Jack, but I can live with her showing up only occasionally-- as long as they don't kill her off!
DJ Qualls, who plays Garth, has been on Z NATION for the last 5 seasons.
It would be nice to have him for an episode, at least. I always liked his quirkiness.
It would be nice to have him for an episode, at least. I always liked his quirkiness.
There are two dangling plotlines that have been left open for far too long, that I'd really like to see get resolved: what happened to our Bobby's soul after the events of "Inside Man," and the whole thing with angel wings. Now that Heaven seems to be about to bite the dust, they have an excellent opportunity to resolve both. I don't get why they haven't done more than make a token reference to undoing the events of "Sacrifice," and not a single mention of our Bobby after "Inside Man."
They referenced him in dialogue this episode.
If so then I clearly missed it. Details please?
Either Sam or Dean mentioned the death of Bobby's Wife being something their Bobby hid when talking about Apocalypse Bobby with Mary.
I did miss that, but it wasn't quite what I meant. I was referring to Soul!Bobby, up in Heaven. There's been no hint of what happened to him after the angels came to get him at the end of "Inside Man." I did catch the reference you described, but I thought you meant they'd mentioned his as-yet-unknown fate and I missed it.
OK....that was an odd episode. It seemed rather all over the place but it clearly was meant just for set-up.
Fly-people? Really?
Fly-people? Really?
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