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Spoilers Arrow Season 7

That scene between Laurel and Felicity seemed a bit forced. And I think it was due to Emily Rickards' performance. It seemed as if she was trying too hard to make Felicity seemed tough. And the problem is that Felicity has always been at her most ruthless when she was either being sneaky or simply self-involved.

Between Star City's anti-vigilantism stance (which also seemed to be a part of the future) and Iris' suppression of Nora's ability on "The Flash", I have the oddest feeling that this is all leading to the political atmosphere that led Zari Tomaz and her family to be hunted by A.R.G.U.S. in the future.
 
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking our new Green Arrow looked like it might be a woman.
Could Felicity be the new Green Arrow? I don't think they have shared a scene together and not sure if her location and where the Green Arrow is, has ever conflicted in making it not possible but I could see them doing this. Heck I will even add the bonus possibility that it is Felicity from the future. I know she was a superhero in one of those future timelines though I can't recall which Arrowverse show it was. Maybe "The Flash."

Jason
The person in the suit seemed to small to me to be Felicity to me, although since it's more than likely a stunt person and not the actual actor who plays the character, that doesn't totally rule her out. Judging by body shape Thea seems a lot more likely.
This was the best episode of the season so far. The prison storyline was the best one we've gotten yet, the stuff with the prison shrink was good.
It was nice seeing almost everyone work together to go after a bad guy.
Some interesting stuff in the flashforwards. Hmmm, could the new GA be future Zoe rather than future William or present day Thea?
 
The person in the suit seemed to small to me to be Felicity to me, although since it's more than likely a stunt person and not the actual actor who plays the character, that doesn't totally rule her out.

I think stunt people are generally cast to be good physical matches for the people they're doubling, except in something like Power Rangers where they tend to use the same suit performers year after year even when the characters change.
 
I haven’t watched this season at all. Haven’t missed it, but I thought I would give the most recent episode a chance.

It was a mixed bag for me. I liked the scenes in prison. I was actually on the side of the counseler. I liked the debate. I wasn’t thrilled with the ominous music when he came in. I guess they are trying to signal he’s “evil” and wrong.

The flash forwards are pretty bland and ... dumb. I hate puzzle stories. “We gotta get this thing to get this thing so we can get the information!” It’s a weak story. I’m not interested in it.

I’m not sure if I’ll be back.
 
I was actually on the side of the counseler. I liked the debate. I wasn’t thrilled with the ominous music when he came in. I guess they are trying to signal he’s “evil” and wrong.

I got that not so much from music, but from sleep and food deprivation, drugging, electroshocking and y'know... the general torturing he did throughout the episode...
 
I got that not so much from music, but from sleep and food deprivation, drugging, electroshocking and y'know... the general torturing he did throughout the episode...

The sleep stuff, yeah, I agree.

But, I think I sided so much with his argument. Ollie was pretty much a terror. Sure, it seems like he rarely killed the main bad guy, but Star City cemeteries are littered with goons that he killed. So, it was hard for me to NOT side with the therapist.

Full disclosure, I've never been a fan of the Punisher, and that's basically who Arrow was for the first few seasons. Then, he tried not to be, but, then, they would drag him back into killing.
 
Full disclosure, I've never been a fan of the Punisher, and that's basically who Arrow was for the first few seasons.

I haven't watched season 1 since it aired, so I don't really recall how many people he actually killed and how, but I do remember he was actively trying to prevent the Huntress from going on a revenge killing spree, and he'd always offer the villains a chance to surrender at least once, so I think the comparisons with the Punisher are kinda ridiculous, if anything he was more like the police who do sometimes use lethal force in self defense when apprehending criminals.
 
if anything he was more like the police who do sometimes use lethal force in self defense when apprehending criminals.

No, first-season Oliver was on a mission to kill the people on his father's list. He'd give them a chance to repent first, but if they didn't, then he would not try to take them alive. It was under the influence of Diggle and Felicity that he gradually softened in his methods.
 
I haven't watched season 1 since it aired, so I don't really recall how many people he actually killed and how, but I do remember he was actively trying to prevent the Huntress from going on a revenge killing spree, and he'd always offer the villains a chance to surrender at least once, so I think the comparisons with the Punisher are kinda ridiculous, if anything he was more like the police who do sometimes use lethal force in self defense when apprehending criminals.

He always gave the villains in charge a chance, but not the lackeys. Just because they didn’t have names, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t count their deaths.

Arrow can’t really claim self defense. He’s a civilian actively engaged in a crime, he’s the one attacking THEM. If anything, the goons could claim self defense for fighting back. It’s their lives Arrow has put at risk.

The police are sanctioned to go into danger, to uphold the law. Arrow isn’t.
 
He always gave the villains in charge a chance, but not the lackeys. Just because they didn’t have names, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t count their deaths.

I've always thought that even then the lackeys were meant to be hit with the "disabling arrows" of the latter seasons.
 
I really hope the future eventually has time travel to fix this whole mess. It seems really pointless to keep watching if we know what the future is leading to, no questions asked.

The most recent flashforwards reminded me of the final season of Fringe, for some reason.
 
I've always thought that even then the lackeys were meant to be hit with the "disabling arrows" of the latter seasons.

To be honest, I don’t remember something being used called a disabling arrow. Save for the ones that wrapped cord around the arms. I remember Digg’s ridiculous “disabiling bullets”

I do remember a lot of arrows stuck in people’s chests.
 
What's wrong with the Arrow, killing people early on? It's great for drama and creating internal conflict inside the character. The only Superhero character that needs to be protected in very aggressive way with the no-killing rule is Superman and Supergirl to a lesser extent. They are more than characters but symbols of what human beings should be like.


Jason
 
To be honest, I don’t remember something being used called a disabling arrow.

It has never been called that on the show, but he's been shooting people full of arrows throughout the show, even through the "no killing" periods, so it's implied he's missing all the vital organs and just knocking them out.
 
Finally got to see episode 4. Good stuff all in all. I'm loving the flashforwards.

Convinced by now as well that the new Arrow is a woman. Probably Thea.
Also convinced Ollie is still Ollie and some brainwashed empty shell now. He's playing them.
 
It has never been called that on the show, but he's been shooting people full of arrows throughout the show, even through the "no killing" periods, so it's implied he's missing all the vital organs and just knocking them out.

I never saw that implication. I think they just glossed over those because they never said those nameless thugs were dead.

But an arrow to the chest? Yeah. That’s not going to knock you out.

If they wanted to imply it— though why didn’t they just say it like the dumb disabling bullets—maybe some FX to show they were being tazed or stunned or something.

Personally I think they were hoping people wouldn’t care about the criminal red shirts.
 
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