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Should the Picard Show ignore ST-2009 destruction of Romulus?
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Yes, I cannot imagine that he saw any difference between the two portrayls...
The destruction of Romulus is probably the best thing that could happen in the lead up to a new show featuring Picard. He already has lots of history with the Romulans and is a diplomat. It plays perfectly to the character.
All the major powers were left in a place that makes storylines easy to come up with. Romulus destroyed, Cardassia devastated, the Borg crippled, Klingons in a better position than ever before, the Dominion licking their wounds and the Federation recovering from war.
All the major powers were left in a place that makes storylines easy to come up with. Romulus destroyed, Cardassia devastated, the Borg crippled, Klingons in a better position than ever before, the Dominion licking their wounds and the Federation recovering from war.
While not my first choice, it beats more Klingon non-sense.
Eh, in the 24th century Klingons are uneasy allies. That could be IMO way more interesting than "dum bad guys" which seems to be there MO nowadays.
But really, if they return Picard, the only enemy to return that makes sense would be the Borg. Finger's crossed for some new guys, but this is really the one case where I wouldn't be against the Borg returning. But Romulans? Come on... They weren't interesting during TNG, nor in NEMESIS. The only time they were interesting was in TOS and maaaaybe Nero in ST09.
I seriously never want to see another Klingon again on TV or film. They are simply played out. There's only so many times they can mumble about "honor" and "Sto-vo-kor" before I want to scoop out my ear drums and eye balls with rusty spoons.
How about there isn't an "enemy" as such? There are so many other types of stores that can be told besides who's the Federation's current adversary. Look at star trek 1, star trek 4, city on edge of forever, and so many other great trek stories. I never went to star trek for battles and wars, and while I like those stories too, in really ready for something else.
You know who's in charge of the franchise right now, right?
I mean - I am ABSOLUTELY with you on this! I honestly HATE the "stop-the-bad-guy" type of storytelling in science fiction. I would love nothing more than for Trek to return back to it's high concept SF-roots, the exploration of ideas and what-if's.
But with the current numbnuts in charge of the franchise...? Yeah. Not gonna' happen anytime soon. Sadly.
Better not watch DSC Season 2 then.
Don't give the writers any ideas.
Tell that to Patrick Stewart. He have them the idea for Bok's first comeback
Back in 2002, (2379) Shinzon assassinated the entire Romulan Senate (spoiler warning) in a coup-d'etat and took power as the unelected praetor of Romulus. Unfortunately (for Shinzon that is) he had an unfortunate encounter with an exploding thalaron reactor during a diplomatic meeting with Captain Picard and the Enterprise E.
Thing is, the power vacuum caused by Shinzons coup and subsequent death means the old guard of power-hungry, self serving, Romulus for Romulans factor is essentially gone - with the Tal Shiar barely having enough manpower to even keep the government functioning.
Should the new Picard show feature the rebuilding of Romulus, or simply pretend it never happened (like many trekkies do)?
Thing is, the power vacuum caused by Shinzons coup and subsequent death means the old guard of power-hungry, self serving, Romulus for Romulans factor is essentially gone - with the Tal Shiar barely having enough manpower to even keep the government functioning.
Should the new Picard show feature the rebuilding of Romulus, or simply pretend it never happened (like many trekkies do)?
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Of course not.
Having said that, it would be ridiculous to try to wrap up every loose thread early in the show. There are a ton.
Politically, the state of the Romulans, the Borg, the Klingons, the Dominion, the Delta quadrant, Bejorans, the Vulcans, the Continuum, the Federation, and/or the Kelvin timeline?
Personally: status of Picard's relationships with Beverly, Guinan, Riker & Troi, Worf, LaForge, and B4?
Too much to do at once. Establish where Picard is personally & professionally & how he got there. In doing that, some of the above questions will get answered.
Then determine what event is going to be the focus of the show. And how that impacts Picard and the arc of his life. And the lives of his former crew. That will answer some more.
The rest can come out in dribbles.
Having said that, it would be ridiculous to try to wrap up every loose thread early in the show. There are a ton.
Politically, the state of the Romulans, the Borg, the Klingons, the Dominion, the Delta quadrant, Bejorans, the Vulcans, the Continuum, the Federation, and/or the Kelvin timeline?
Personally: status of Picard's relationships with Beverly, Guinan, Riker & Troi, Worf, LaForge, and B4?
Too much to do at once. Establish where Picard is personally & professionally & how he got there. In doing that, some of the above questions will get answered.
Then determine what event is going to be the focus of the show. And how that impacts Picard and the arc of his life. And the lives of his former crew. That will answer some more.
The rest can come out in dribbles.
It should not pretend it never happened. Why not explore the results? The Romulans are a major Alpha quadrant power and their internal struggle would be interesting to explore, given that we saw something similar with the Klingons multiple times over.
It would tie into a plot threads from the TNG era and really the Borg work better in small doses. Give the Borg one final story and then leave them be, they do not work for a big long story line.
Picard would be extremely old in this new series, so it would not make sense he would still be on the Enterprise, discovering new planets. This series showing off his diplomatic skills would make the most sense and that would involve a political event and some enemies and allies.
Plus Voyager ruined the typical TNG style story and I think having an ongoing story is the way to go rather then discovering a planet and forgetting it exists the next week.
I kind of would like a story with a non-violent solution to the Borg threat.
It would kind-of book-end the whole TNG era, and it's one of the big things missing - TNG ALWAYS advocated for peacefull solutions, and they gave us one of the most interesting and unique Trek villains ever, but they never managed a civilised end with the Borg - which is logical, since part of the appeal of the Borg is they can't be reasoned with.
But it would be an interesting prospect nevertheless. Something like a peacefull revolution from inside the continuum. But it would be damn hard for any writers to come up with a scenario that would withstand scrutiny, so I'm not blaming anyone if they don't try that.
It would kind-of book-end the whole TNG era, and it's one of the big things missing - TNG ALWAYS advocated for peacefull solutions, and they gave us one of the most interesting and unique Trek villains ever, but they never managed a civilised end with the Borg - which is logical, since part of the appeal of the Borg is they can't be reasoned with.
But it would be an interesting prospect nevertheless. Something like a peacefull revolution from inside the continuum. But it would be damn hard for any writers to come up with a scenario that would withstand scrutiny, so I'm not blaming anyone if they don't try that.
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