If 3.5 million weren't more than enough, CBS wouldn't be considering the show a success. Streaming numbers aren't the same as network numbers, where that nine million came from.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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If 3.5 million weren't more than enough, CBS wouldn't be considering the show a success. Streaming numbers aren't the same as network numbers, where that nine million came from.
You don't think Discovery is using nostalgia aimed at fans?
That's a disingenuous question, given that we've discussed it before. Using it is not the same as it being the whole point of the show.
No it wasn't directed at you. To the audience who fits my description.
A modernized Enterprise bridge with interactive console displays that switch from blinking indicator lights to dynamic readouts and even touchscreen control capability and making the surface controls slightly more detailed would have been a great idea. It wasn't going to happen for numerous reasons we've all discussed but a high-def upgrade of the 1701 bridge with a touch and flare of modern technology would have worked for a lot of people even if the casual kid who grew up on video game spaceship aesthetics didn't really like it.
A modernized Enterprise bridge with interactive console displays that switch from blinking indicator lights to dynamic readouts and even touchscreen control capability and making the surface controls slightly more detailed would have been a great idea. It wasn't going to happen for numerous reasons we've all discussed but a high-def upgrade of the 1701 bridge with a touch and flare of modern technology would have worked for a lot of people even if the casual kid who grew up on video game spaceship aesthetics didn't really like it.
That's quite true. But they still called it "decent", which doesn't sound like a roaring success. In fact, there was surprise at their announcements for expanding the franchise.
In any case that's all beside the point. The bulk of the audience isn't old fans. That'd be a pretty stupid business model.
Do you have anything to back that up?
Only the bit of reasoning that followed and that you mysteriously edited out.
I thought it was pretty dumb reasoning, so I ignored it. All-Access is built on a subscription model. Those 18-34 eyeballs aren't as important as they used to be. It is important to have subscribers, regardless of age.
Well that's not a bad reason to ignore it! I would've prefered you addressed it, though.
The point is simple: if you target an audience which is, in your own words, niche, and your product is a high-price TV series, do you think that's a good business model? Think about it: high cost, small market.
“Refit” is all relative. Here in California they have a rule that you can’t demolish your old house and build a new one in its place without paying some huge penalties. So what everyone is doing is knocking down 3 walls of the old house, building the new house around the remaining wall, then when the rest of the house is built, they knock down the last wall and build new one from scratch. So at no point was the old house knocked down completely at one time, so it’s technically a “refit” while practically it is a new house (nothing from original remains). So yeah, it’s all relative and has roots in real life.
Then I misread.
The premise is that the keel, whatever it is that serves as a keel on a starship, remained. In that case, as with the Naval carrier vessel USS Enterprise, it's still the same ship even after undergoing multiple refits. She's just undergone a refit, and refits range from cosmetic to nearly a full rebuild.
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Huh, good point.
That reminds me of something that happened to my grandfather back in the 1930s. A guy wanted him to cut a large amount of cords of wood for him and agreed to pay when he came for the last of it. He hauled away all but that very last cord of wood. Left that sitting and never paid for anything. In the most technical terms, he didn't lie. But....
So when the Enterprise returned in 2269, they removed the nacelles, bridge module and computer core... then they discovered that the pylons couldn't handle the new stress loads... so they changed those. Then Starfleet decided they wanted their new ships to be shiny and white, so they changed the outer hull. Then some asshat admiral wanted more weaponry on the engineering hull so we got the torpedo launchers there, which opened a large hole in the saucer section that resulted in more changes. Then the impulse engines didn't fit with the new warp core they had to install for the nacelles, and a year later they had ripped every single nut and bolt from the original ship and replaced it.
You know, the HMS Victory in Portsmouth basically has zero parts from the original. Even the keel's been changed. 'Course, it's over 200 years old.
You know, the HMS Victory in Portsmouth basically has zero parts from the original. Even the keel's been changed. 'Course, it's over 200 years old.
"Admiral, this is an almost totally new Enterprise. You don't know her a tenth as well as I do."
How many lights are there?
Yeah I know that line pretty well. Never took it literally, though. Star Trek is like the bible, I suppose. You can quote one line to support any theory!
That's why we studyHow many lights are there?
Yeah I know that line pretty well. Never took it literally, though. Star Trek is like the bible, I suppose. You can quote one line to support any theory!
That's why we study
“[A]s is the fate of Bibles, it was not carefully read and was still less understood by many of its disciples.”Star Trek is like the bible, I suppose. You can quote one line to support any theory!
That's why I study it.
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