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When and how will DSC crossover with the TNG sequel?

It's really hard to take anything you say seriously when you say silly stuff like this.
And it's not worthwhile to take your observations and pronouncements seriously because your posting track record on this board is one of being wrong in most of your expectations.

Further, it's often fairly easy for a reader to see at the time you post them that your assertions and predictions are poorly reasoned from bad evidence.
 
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You've reached a point of being able to be proactively negative about things in the planning stage. Your journey is complete.
For me, it's more interesting to ask "How is @Serveaux wrong about this?" than to ask whether the passing clouds are making @Serveaux angry.

I imagine we'll see a slew of topics asking similar questions before the premiere of the new show:

When will Picard Trek go to the Mirror Universe? - You know, like STD did.
Will Picard Trek bring back Noonian Soong? - You know, like STD did with Harry Mudd.
Will Picard Trek bring in lots of familiar characters from TNG? - a variation of the above, and of course already being discussed; You know, like STD is doing with Pike, Number One, Spock, Sarek and gods know how many other familiar Trek characters from TOS.

To boil it down:

When will PIcard Trek regurgitate the same old shit? - if it's like STD, early and often.
I'm looking at this list and frankly seeing only pitfalls that will demand efforts above and beyond for the developers to avoid them. :shrug:
 
...pitfalls that will demand efforts above and beyond for the developers to avoid them.

Well, then we're screwed. :lol:

Well, actually...no. I'm intrigued by the report that Michael Chabon is an executive producer on Picard Trek. It's the first promising, interesting note about the new project other than the fact itself that Patrick Stewart will appear in the Franchise again.

Hold on...it's even kind of exciting. ;)

(BTW, fuck clouds. They know what they did.)
 
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Well, then we're screwed. :lol:

Well, actually...no. I'm intrigued by the report that Michael Chabon is an executive producer on Picard Trek. It's the first promising, interesting note about the new project other than the fact itself that Patrick Stewart will appear in the Franchise again.

Hold on...it's even kind of exciting. ;)

(BTW, fuck clouds. They know what they did.)
My turn to be gloomy. I hope that Chabon actually lasts in this position and manages to have substantial creative influence, and that he doesn't end up cast aside for actually being creative straying too far outside the box. Hopefully, TPTB perceive his involvement at least as much of an opportunity for them as for him (I can hope!).

Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chabon#Experiences_with_Hollywood, the most promising thing I see there is perhaps the partial story-by credit for Raimi's Spider-Man 2, which I think always was and is a generally outstanding example of a superhero film adaptation. The accolades for his literary works speak for themselves.

By the way, Chabon wrote the DISCO short “Calypso,” which has already been shot.

https://trekmovie.com/2018/07/23/au...ils-on-his-star-trek-discovery-short-calypso/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/04/arts/star-trek-patrick-stewart-picard.html
 
By the way, Chabon wrote the DISCO short “Calypso,” which has already been shot.

I'm intrigued by Calypso, because it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Discovery as of yet, unlike the other three "Short Treks" which have been announced. It may be that Craft's story will work his way into Season 2 later as a character. But if not, I wonder if it's sort of a test to see if Chabon could serve as showrunner for an entire Trek series.
 
But if not, I wonder if it's sort of a test to see if Chabon could serve as showrunner for an entire Trek series.
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The "Star Trek Universe" is a three-century continuum in which nothing ever changes. They rearrange the furniture.

Now, now....those of us who made fan films back in the 80s and 90s didn't exactly break out and make purely our own Treks, did we? Our furniture went into trying to copy that TOS Enterprise bridge. We didn't go out and get fresh stuff to make the bridge of the USS Thisisgoingtobewildlydifferent. ;)
 
Now, now....those of us who made fan films back in the 80s and 90s didn't exactly break out and make purely our own Treks, did we? Our furniture went into trying to copy that TOS Enterprise bridge. We didn't go out and get fresh stuff to make the bridge of the USS Thisisgoingtobewildlydifferent.

What does that have to do with...anything? Anything at all?
 
What does that have to do with...anything? Anything at all?

I am going to have to side with you on this! Is it freezing down under? :alienblush:

If the complaint is that not enough is different, those of us who made fan films didn't really make things different, either. We tried to make the TOS bridge, instead of a bridge of our own design that was a lot different.

Speaking for myself, in the 80s, I was perhaps too awed with what I had seen from Trek while growing up in the late 60s and 70s and I was stuck on imitation rather than taking a step back and creating something Enterprise-ish, but original as far as the bridge design went.

I actually like that the Klingon ships are different....I just don't particularly care for the look they went with. In other words, I like the idea of difference, but not the way it was executed.
 
If the complaint is that not enough is different, those of us who made fan films didn't really make things different, either. We tried to make the TOS bridge, instead of a bridge of our own design that was a lot different.

Fan films are imitative by definition. There's no comparison between what's to be expected of a fan film and what kind of ambitions we'd hope professional filmmakers have. It's very strange to bring up fan films in this context; they are irrelevant.
 
Fan films are imitative by definition. There's no comparison between what's to be expected of a fan film and what kind of ambitions we'd hope professional filmmakers have. It's very strange to bring up fan films in this context; they are irrelevant.

I'll have to disagree. I feel that it depends on the individual.

Imitative by definition....BUT, the question is to what degree.

I can imagine two makers of fan films. One was strictly imitative. The other stepped out of the box and incorporated his or her own ideas, to expand upon and go beyond what the professionals originally included.

Later, that extra bit of imaginative creativity established early on might very well make the latter film maker more successful in the professional world.

A person can be well-versed in what has come before, but the additional spark of imagining beyond that is never a bad thing if incorporated in a reasonable way.
 
Sarek melded with Michael and left some of his Katra with her, allowing them to communicate irrespective of distance.

Sarek melded with Picard, allowing Sarek to remain sane for some negotiations. It was quite intense.

Perhaps irrespective of space and time, Picard can summon Sarek and Michael into his consciousness for talky conferences when he's unsure how to proceed.
 
Sarek melded with Michael and left some of his Katra with her, allowing them to communicate irrespective of distance.

Sarek melded with Picard, allowing Sarek to remain sane for some negotiations. It was quite intense.

Perhaps irrespective of space and time, Picard can summon Sarek and Michael into his consciousness for talky conferences when he's unsure how to proceed.

Like Baltar and Caprica Six? Hopefully he has better control of the process.

If it were ever to happen, they would have to use FrainSarek.
 
You mean Oscar-winning movies (Akiva Goldsman), monumentally successful films and television series (Kurtzman), and monumentally successful novels (Beyer)?

There's really cause for concern.... NOT!

Then one just has to look at Discovery. :eek:

In fairness the negative opinions about DSC thus far aren't ubiquitous. I approached it with an open mind and personally felt it was no weaker than any other opening season (except TOS, obviously). Not great, but not past the point of redemption certainly and definitely not lacking in potential.
 
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