star trek animated 4rth and 5th season of star trek??

[Gavin70]

I've always assumed that the first number in Kirk's starlog is the actual year of his Trek! This idea only works if you view the episodes in stardate order though! So WNMHGB, Corbomite and Mudd all take place in the early days of the voyage! Notice that the first series starts with 1s and 2s and the second is 2s, 3s and 4s and the third is all 4s and 5s! As to how to reconcile TAS into that scenario, I have no idea!
JB

That's an interesting concept. Given that stardates were assigned fairly randomly in TOS, I'd be interested to see if anyone's done a list of episodes in stardate order (especially if it included TAS).

 

[Pauln6]

That's an interesting concept. Given that stardates were assigned fairly randomly in TOS, I'd be interested to see if anyone's done a list of episodes in stardate order (especially if it included TAS).

They have and some of the animated shows end up in season one. I think Catspaw gets moved before Space Seed, so Khan was right all along!

 

[johnnybear]

There is the original series stardate order page and the Star Trek list page! Although there is some trouble over whether Patterns of Force is really stardate 25340 or not! I'd say it is and it's our first view of Chekov on the bridge as you know and it comes in as episode ten I think!
JB

 

[MAGolding]

They have and some of the animated shows end up in season one. I think Catspaw gets moved before Space Seed, so Khan was right all along!

As I say in other threads, the common orders for TOS episodes are broadcast order, production order, and startade order. And a fourth possible order would be in order of seasons, and within seasons in stardate order.

 

[1001001]

As I say in other threads, my preferred viewing order is alphabetical.

 

[Kor]

Part of the original idea behind stardates was that they would account for relativistic effects related to velocity, location within the galaxy, etc. So an event with a lower stardate didn't necessarily actually happen "before" an event with a higher stardate.

Kor

 

[Mysterion]

Ok. This is really easy:

FYM Year 1 = TOS Season 1
FYM Year 2 = TOS Season 2
FYM Year 3 = TOS Season 3
FYM Year 4 = TAS Season 1
FYM Year 5 = TAS Season 2

 

[2takesfrakes]

I just wanted to say that whilst TAS wasn't as wildly imaginative as it could've, or should've been, I feel that the background Artists at Filmation did a wonderful job. I mean, we're getting cats stuffed into a TOS outfit and this is made to pass for "imagination," but always in the background, the cityscapes, the otherworldly terrains and whatnot were always done the complete opposite of that. These images were invested with much more imagination and creativity than we ever got to see in these shows and I always admired that about TAS. Often, these designs were very organic-based and they were typically quite colourful and pleasing to look at. Like this, for example:

https://scifanatic-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tas_example_bkgrd.jpg

 

[JonnyQuest037]

As I say in other threads, my preferred viewing order is alphabetical.

Mr. Atoz approves.

 

[Phaser Two]

I just wanted to say that whilst TAS wasn't as wildly imaginative as it could've, or should've been, I feel that the background Artists at Filmation did a wonderful job. I mean, we're getting cats stuffed into a TOS outfit and this is made to pass for "imagination," but always in the background, the cityscapes, the otherworldly terrains and whatnot were always done the complete opposite of that. These images were invested with much more imagination and creativity than we ever got to see in these shows and I always admired that about TAS. Often, these designs were very organic-based and they were typically quite colourful and pleasing to look at. Like this, for example:

https://scifanatic-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tas_example_bkgrd.jpg

That is a really nice shot and I agree with you. The animators did good work and many of the stories are quite good. The biggest problem - which wasn't anyone's fault - is the short, sitcom-level running time. That made it hard to linger on and ultimately appreciate the beautiful scenery they were creating.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I've always assumed that the first number in Kirk's starlog is the actual year of his Trek! This idea only works if you view the episodes in stardate order though! So WNMHGB, Corbomite and Mudd all take place in the early days of the voyage! Notice that the first series starts with 1s and 2s and the second is 2s, 3s and 4s and the third is all 4s and 5s! As to how to reconcile TAS into that scenario, I have no idea!

This is more or less how I interpret it in my TOS timeline, only I still keep the episodes in production order. Stardate order introduces too many oddities and contradictions, IMO.

Here's how the 5YM breaks down in my timeline:

YEAR ONE (2265-2266)
“Where No Man Has Gone Before” (Stardate 1312.4) to “Balance of Terror” (Stardate 1709.2)

YEAR TWO (2266-2267)
“What Are Little Girls Made Of?” (Stardate 2712.4) to “Court Martial” (Stardate 2947.3)

YEAR THREE (2267-2268)
“The Menagerie” (Stardate 3012.4) to “The Deadly Years” (Stardate 3478.2)

YEAR FOUR (2268-2269)
“I, Mudd” (Stardate 4513.3) to “The Paradise Syndrome” (Stardate 4842.6)

YEAR FIVE (2269-2270)
“The Enterprise Incident” (Stardate 5027.3) to “Turnabout Intruder” (Stardate 5928.5)

TAS, of course, throws this theory all out of whack, with Stardates climbing up into the 6000s and 7000s.

 

[STEPhon IT]

TAS is the 4th year and the computer games are the 5th year. That is how I look at it.

For me, TAS was the beginning of a new 5 year mission. TOS, I felt completed it's 5 year mission. Stardate in Where No Man has Gone Before begins with 1312.4; I would like to believe the first numeral was the year for the space missions. Stardates started accelerating because the production feared they won't reach the 5 year mission (season) goal, by season 3's All Our Yesterdays the stardate was 5943.7. The numbers don't lie and it's enough for me.

A second 5 year mission in TAS would be more likely since the Enterprise presented obvious upgrades which were later realized in TMP, plus I think there were some uniform alterations as well, and the stardates were consistent to what was established in TOS.

 

[Galileo7]

For me, TAS was the beginning of a new 5 year mission. TOS, I felt completed it's 5 year mission. Stardate in Where No Man has Gone Before begins with 1312.4; I would like to believe the first numeral was the year for the space missions. Stardates started accelerating because the production feared they won't reach the 5 year mission (season) goal, by season 3's All Our Yesterdays the stardate was 5943.7. The numbers don't lie and it's enough for me.

A second 5 year mission in TAS would be more likely since the Enterprise presented obvious upgrades which were later realized in TMP, plus I think there were some uniform alterations as well, and the stardates were consistent to what was established in TOS.

But Kirk stated about his qualifications to take command of the newly refit 1701 to Decker in TMP : "...my five years out there".

 

[CorporalCaptain]

For me, TAS was the beginning of a new 5 year mission. TOS, I felt completed it's 5 year mission. Stardate in Where No Man has Gone Before begins with 1312.4; I would like to believe the first numeral was the year for the space missions. Stardates started accelerating because the production feared they won't reach the 5 year mission (season) goal, by season 3's All Our Yesterdays the stardate was 5943.7. The numbers don't lie and it's enough for me.

If that is the way stardates work in-universe, then "Encounter at Farpoint" would be happening less than 40 years after "All Our Yesterdays." But TNG isn't that soon after TOS, so that's not how stardates work.

 

[Kor]

See my earlier post about how stardates work.

Kor

 

[STEPhon IT]

If that is the way stardates work in-universe, then "Encounter at Farpoint" would be happening less than 40 years after "All Our Yesterdays." But TNG isn't that soon after TOS, so that's not how stardates work.

It's well documented how TNG stardates work. It's well addressed in their Tech manual.

 

[STEPhon IT]

But Kirk stated about his qualifications to take command of the newly refit 1701 to Decker in TMP : "...my five years out there".

[Shrug] He's referring to his last tour of duty.... TAS LMAO!!!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

TAS LMAO!!!

What of it? It's the topic of the thread.

 

[STEPhon IT]

It is, isn't it? And I still consider it canon and a new 5 year mission.

 

[Maurice]

But Kirk stated about his qualifications to take command of the newly refit 1701 to Decker in TMP : "...my five years out there".

Almost, minus the "my".