Catching moral hypocrites happens on both sides of the political spectrum. Think of the Jimmy Swaggart "I have sinned". I don't think either ideology has a lock of moral integrity.
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Catching moral hypocrites happens on both sides of the political spectrum. Think of the Jimmy Swaggart "I have sinned". I don't think either ideology has a lock of moral integrity.
He said among other things "I just downloaded that new Steven Tyler single. I feel the type of shame usually reserved for getting a three dollar bj from a maye-tranny" and "Trying to figure out the most disgusting feature of Vegas: these tranny-riffic Rita Rudner billboards or all the Ed Hardy clothing." I don't doubt that he wasn't being serious, but I do find it a bit disheartening, at least.
Well, that doesn't seem like a well thought out stance, considering the number of cis women who can't get children.
I've no doubt dredging those tweets up was politically motivated but the reaction to them is not. This is a person who put himself in the public domain and there's nothing defensible about them. I don't see any parallels with Family Guy humour without a serious stretch and sad as I am to see his creative input go giving him leeway because of his talent would be a terrible precedent.
I don't think anyone's defending his jokes, but what I fail to understand is why tasteless jokes made a decade ago on the internet is a line too far. Why does this count as an action so vile that redemption is impossible?
The man started his career working on Troma films with Lloyd Kaufman. A film studio that specializes in vulgar and shock humour. His entire career was about disgusting, vile humour and he kept that up on Twitter. He later left that life behind when he started working with Marvel and has apologized for his past behaviour. He's changed and become a better person. Is that not what we want people to do? What purpose does it serve to punish someone for who they were in the past?
I appreciate your decency, it's a rare thing. However I don't believe Disney can possibly reconcile those "jokes" with their public image of a family friendly business. There's shock humour and there's shock humour but glorifying paedophilia is really really hard to come back from and they won't want to have their massive investment riding on the public perception of that redemption, nor could they reasonably justify the message that sends out to the public about society.
His jokes were tasteless, unfunny, offensive, he should have deleted them after recognizing the fact, then one might say he was trying to cover it up. Has he truly hurt anyone? Or said something racist? Should he lose his job for stupid shit he said on twitter years ago? Is he the only person in the world to say stupid shit? None of us are saints. People are always changing and growing. Forgive him and hope others will forgive when it's you one day.
Probably, yes. Victims of child sex crimes might not be over the moon about their experiences being the stuff of humour. That being said, this controversy is doubtless giving those comments vastly more airtime than they would have had otherwise.
If Disney knew about them they should really have approached him ahead of the fact and spoken to him about removing them well before this erupted. As it stands, they are left with no choice.
As jokes go there are few people in the world who wouldn't be offended by something. As I said, very poor taste but there is a lot of poor taste out there.
True, but FFS there's no defending that shit
No, there isn't, but he can't take it back now.
It's an actual objective fact in this case. Cruz actually IS an abomination. People in his OWN party loathe the man.
Sure.
One that I do not share. Mostly because I refuse to hate anyone or call them an "abomination."
Exactly, actions have consequences, especially when you function in the public eye. He used openly transphobic language and comments and laughed about the trauma of childhood sexual abuse.
He had the chance to remove those comments years ago but didn't, there's no way Disney are going to let themselves be associated with that in the public eye.
There's also "No Freedom from Consequences."
Comedy Central has a different set of values than Disney. Personally, I think South Park is pretty stupid and childish, so I don't watch it. I also believe Comedy Central is in their right to keep the show... or NOT.
People don't have to censor themselves. But, then, they also shouldn't be surprised when a family friendly business doesn't want to hire them.
Also: It's not like the public has suddenly come around to the idea that rape and pedophilia jokes are horrible. He said he wrote them at the time to BE shocking. So, lets not turn this into "OMG, society has turned SO much, I can't even tell a dead baby joke."
Are people now just realizing that social media is public platform?
Hate the actions, love the abomination.
Hate the actions, love the person. Abomination implies hatred.
Nah. Not when it's Ted Cruz.
You and I must have different dictionaries.
As I've already explained twice: not deleting the tweets, even through laziness/negligence, implied a continued endorsement of their content. Yes, the tweets are years old, but they were left up until a few days ago. Ergo, from a certain point of view - probably the deciding one, in this case - he continued to make those jokes until a few days ago.
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