Disney fires James Gunn from "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3"
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Because he's more famous now
Has he carried on such Tweets inbetween 2012 (the original apology) and 2018?
Obviously, we are both getting off topic, but, the Right doesn't hate the entertainment industry. They hate certain people in the industry. They love Rosanne. They love Tim Allen.
And to be honest... it's only the vocal Right.
If the all of those who considered themselves conservative and on the right hated Hollywood with "all their heart," movies wouldn't be making millions of dollars on a weekend, shows wouldn't be watched by millions of people.
In other words: I wouldn't take to much weight in the idea the Right hates Hollywood.
Something is afoot at Marvel. Firing Gunn over tweets that were made six years ago smacks of a cover story for the real reason he was released. What else is happening behind the scenes at Marvel?
Gunn had just finished writing GOTG vol 3. I wounder if they will still use it or scrape it?
You seem to be stuck on it being a right/left issue rather than a right/wrong one
Well, it was a Right Wing asshole who decided to dig up the tweets, so, making it a Right/Left issue isn't wrong.
I would be surprised if this isn't the real reason. These aren't just "hey, stoopid people are dumb" tweets. They are pretty awful. I don't see why Disney, family friendly Disney, would want to be associated with them. And, they sorta fired Rosanne for her tweets... so...
This is the real reason.
The one about The Giving Tree made me laugh; I've always found Shel Silverstein's children's books a bit precious.
I don't know if there's any kind of joke that I'm "99% certain" I've never made, though I can say that there are many kinds I haven't made since I was young...and there are certain kinds of gross humor that I can't stand and do have a reflexive physical revulsion on hearing.
"Dead baby" jokes. I've probably never told one of those.
I don't know if there's any kind of joke that I'm "99% certain" I've never made, though I can say that there are many kinds I haven't made since I was young...and there are certain kinds of gross humor that I can't stand and do have a reflexive physical revulsion on hearing.
"Dead baby" jokes. I've probably never told one of those.
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I agree. If the old jokes were the same subject manner but told differently I'm guessing the reaction wouldn't have been as bad, but he sometimes writes himself first person as a pedophile. Jokes or not, that's hard for Disney to ignore. (In terms of it sticking to them if they go nothing.)
I happen to think Family Guy, as a prime-time comedy (unlike the Ted movies where he has more leeway), often crosses the line and that Seth is the luckiest man in Hollywood for getting away with it. It's almost like he's been given carte blanche in a way nobody else would.
The sex gags in Guardians 1 and 2, and you all know which two I'm referring to, one of which plagiarized from a sitcom (that also should never have crossed that line), should have been red-flags. These jokes were unnecessary. They were put in specifically to push the envelope, which is not something you should be doing in a non-R rated comic book movie that needs to sell merch to kids.
At the time I felt that these were cultural watersheds. For instance, witness how much casual swearing is going on in this very thread. The fact is that that people's interpersonal skills have eroded to the point where nobody feels they need to censor how they communicate for different social contexts. It's a verbal free-for-all all the time.
Well, it is...until it isn't, as James Gunn has now learned.
It's nice to know there's still a line out there you can't cross.
No, I don't think Gunn is a pedophile or sexist per se. What I think, though, is when you make jokes like that, it demonstrates that you lack empathy towards those who are going to feel offended. It's the joke equivalent of throwing an IED. It's more important to get a strong reaction than it is to be respectful of someone's feelings.
That's why jokes beyond a certain point start to feel the same as bullying or hate-speech.
This is just disappointing on every level.
As I said earlier: leaving them up on Twitter, even through laziness or negligence, implies a continued endorsement of their content. You don't have to like it, but that's the way that medium is now.
I agree, if he'd deleted them years ago. See above.
I can only think of the Jackson Pollack joke in Vol. 1... but I can't forget that Age of Ultron is the one where Tony makes a serial rape joke.
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