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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

I see nothing wrong with either of these caveats and am rather amused by the fact that the term "window" defaults to "functionless see through thing" when discussed. :rolleyes:

Being able to look out a window is immaterial. one cannot fly a starship by window. It takes sensors, navigational data, star charts, and calculations, rather than visual aide. All aspects of the window can also be achieved by the screen or monitor. I believe in TOS they called it a screen. Anyhow, it's function to see where you are going, doesn't matter when technology was made to make them just a luxury. Why have a window in a room, in the future with holographic projection tech, you could have walls in a room that look like a forest, and sleep in the middle, until the illusion is lost by someone opening the door. I think it's purely aesthetic and designer chosen. the TOS screens or monitors on a bridge were some seriously stout technology. In most battles and in most cases, those screens were still functional. I sometimes wonder if there is a planet out there with all the Bridge screens from destroyed ships littering the entire world surface. A planet of just pure ship screens, untouched, and in pristine condition, as they were the only things that survived the ship's destruction. :lol:

I mean think about it. How much explosions happen on the bridge, People Dying, Bridge Battle damage in countless episodes, from janeway to Picard to Kirk to Sisco, most of the time, including in the movies, most of the time, that damn view screen is still working!!

I mean, if you are in a TOS era -TNG era ship crashing in the ocean, run for the View Screen and hang on tight, you're guaranteed to come out alive, and still have TV to run your tricorder games on. :bolian:
 
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I think you completely missed the point of DS9. The best way you can show Trek's optimism is to challenge it, bring it to the brink, deconstruct it, and yet have it triump at the end, which is exactly what DS9 and DSC did.
Considering that Sisko, Sarek and Cornwell did not end up behind bars, that obviously didn't happen.
 
Being able to look out a window is immaterial. one cannot fly a starship by window. It takes sensors, navigational data, star charts, and calculations, rather than visual aide. All aspects of the window can also be achieved by the screen or monitor.
The two are not mutually exlcusive is my point. The arguments levied against the window are purely because it upsets some imagined delicate balance that somehow a window destroys. It's illogical and irrational, because a window can have sensors, huds, projections and the like and still be functional in low power situations.

Windows=viewscreen in my opinion. It's the same.

And now I'll prepare myself for the rage that will come my way for daring to disparage the almighty viewscreen.

Considering that Sisko, Sarek and Cornwell did not end up behind bars, that obviously didn't happen.
Nah, their minds were just wiped so they would never do that again.
 
The two are not mutually exlcusive is my point. The arguments levied against the window are purely because it upsets some imagined delicate balance that somehow a window destroys. It's illogical and irrational, because a window can have sensors, huds, projections and the like and still be functional in low power situations.

Windows=viewscreen in my opinion. It's the same.

I see the distinction you are making. I agree with that. I just think it should be Transparent Aluminum, rather then glass like with the Kelvin Enterprise. Place a tech plate over it that is also transparent, then you can still call it a screen, tho technically it's both a screen overlay on a "window" which is actually transparent aluminum.

then, it makes sense to me.
 
I see the distinction you are making. I agree with that. I just think it should be Transparent Aluminum, rather then glass like with the Kelvin Enterprise. Place a tech plate over it that is also transparent, then you can still call it a screen, tho technically it's both a screen overlay on a "window" which is actually transparent aluminum.

then, it makes sense to me.
Yes, it can be both. That's the point.
 
The problem with this particular window is that is really ugly. Kelvin Enterprise window looked much better.
The enterprise window appears to have two layers.

I see the distinction you are making. I agree with that. I just think it should be Transparent Aluminum, rather then glass like with the Kelvin Enterprise. Place a tech plate over it that is also transparent, then you can still call it a screen, tho technically it's both a screen overlay on a "window" which is actually transparent aluminum.

then, it makes sense to me.

Just because something looks like glass, doesn't mean it is glass, the show/movie is set 200 years from now, it could be a completely different type of material that just happens to look like glass.

Now this could just be a quirk of the Anovos model and not 100% accurate, but it looks like there are two layers to the bridge window.

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You know what my biggest problem with the window is? If it were reversed and the TOS Enterprise had the window, everyone who is currently pro window would be going on about how primitive a window is and how superior the Disco Enterprise is for dispensing with such a useless feature it and going with the clearly more advanced and safe viewscreen.
 
You know what my biggest problem with the window is? If it were reversed and the TOS Enterprise had the window, everyone who is currently pro window would be going on about how primitive a window is and how superior the Disco Enterprise is for dispensing with such a useless feature it and going with the clearly more advanced and safe viewscreen.
Not me.
 
That's a horrible Bridge, looks like the Kelvin window for God's Sake!!
I mean, sure.. it's logical I suppose. But you figure with the monitor, they can use any angle of the ship and see what ever they want without issue.

They still can with the window I assume.

Discovery has used it for 2D communications in a couple episodes, so I assume they could project other views on it.

It's illogical and irrational, because a window can have sensors, huds, projections and the like and still be functional in low power situations.

Yeah. I've always thought it was weird not having one, like since I was five which was the first time I saw WOK. A window would have been really handy.
Given that the window can have a screen projected onto it so is essentially the same, what was the reason for the change?

Style? Dramatic? The fact that general audiences have no memory before 2009?
 
Just wondering, do we have any confirmation that screens in Trek aren't just one-way windows?
Could the screen being off in FC just before they engage the Borg be considered such evidence? And isn’t there a scene in Voyager one time where you see essentially a holo matrix like on the holodeck when the screen is shut down? I’m off to memory alpha I’ll be back

Edit: yes you do it’s in “year of hell”. The viewscreen is like one wall of a holodeck.
 
Considering that Sisko, Sarek and Cornwell did not end up behind bars, that obviously didn't happen.

Yeah. At the exact point Sisko fired weapons of mass destruction on a human Maquis colony ("For the uniform"), I knew I was pretty much done with Sisko as a respectable human being and DS9 as a "serious" show.

Cornwell has the advantage of not being a main character, so we won't see her that often. But Sarek? That shit hurts. hashtag not MY Sarek.
 
I suppose the window means that we’re one step closer to finding out how the Enterprise would fare against a star destroyer.

Because the only reason the Enterprise has a window in 2009 is because JJ Abrams is a Star Wars.
 
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