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Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

Lord Garth

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I've figured we've needed one for a while, so I'm starting it up! Anything goes. Especially Discovery.

I'm looking at getting a video projector. I'd say I've wanted to do this for years but that's a lie. I've wanted to do it for decades. I don't care how big the TV is, nothing beats watching something up against an entire wall.

I'd love to see Discovery on the Big Screen and this is how I'll make it happen. Some other stuff I want to see on the big screen too that I normally wouldn't be able to. But this was the Big Push.

Plus I went over to a friend's house last summer, he has a projector, and a bunch of us watched Raiders of the Lost Ark on it. Great times. Until the mosquitoes decided to join us.
 
I've got a Sanyo 1080p projector I could sell you, as I just upgraded to 4k unit!

Anyway, tonight I just finished a Disco re-watch (using said new projector!). I must say, semi-binge-watching it makes everything flow even better. I loved the hell out of it this time through. I think that SMG and Shazad Latif acted the hell outta this series too. Latif in particular was brilliant in my opinion, and I haven't seen much positive go his way.

I wish they had wrapped up "Will You Take My Hand" a little better, but even that episode, which was a disappointment upon my first viewing, really felt better the second time through. Despite the plot / conclusion being rushed and wonky, there are some great individual moments in there that really rise above the material.
 
Sent a PM. Discussion of the projector carried over there.

Anyway, in addition to Discovery, I will of course, watch all the Star Trek movies, Blade Runner (my all-time favorite movie), a bunch of '80s movies because that's what my friends and I do, and some other stuff.

But -- most importantly -- Season 2 of DSC on the Big Screen! It'll be Epic. It doesn't feel right see a new Enterprise unless it's on a big screen. So I'll get to see the Discoprise in all its glory.
 
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I've figured we've needed one for a while, so I'm starting it up! Anything goes. Especially Discovery.
Would you like us to pin the thread up top for you? On the one hand, it makes the thread easier to find if you know there's a pinned thread to look for, but on the other, people tend to gloss over the pinned threads sometimes in favor of the ones that get bumped with each new post.

It's up to you if you want to do it or not, or if you want to wait and see if this takes off first. I figure we can keep it up there as long as there is demand or until S2 starts and more pinned review threads go up.
 
Had to think: let's pin it, give it some time, then unpin if it doesn't take off. Thanks!

Everyone else jump in! Say anything you want. Can be totally random. I'm not here to direct the flow of discussion. But. That having been said, I've ordered my projector and it's on its way.

I'll be ordering a DISCO T-shirt too. The first time ever (post-childhood anyway) product placement on a TV show has worked on me. It's very subtle, almost on a dog-whistle level because to most people it would be just a normal T-shirt. Disco's from the '70s, I'm from the end of the '70s, so it works: Star Trek or not.
 
I'll be ordering a DISCO T-shirt too. The first time ever (post-childhood anyway) product placement on a TV show has worked on me. It's very subtle, almost on a dog-whistle level because to most people it would be just a normal T-shirt. Disco's from the '70s, I'm from the end of the '70s, so it works: Star Trek or not.
I really liked that shirt and that concept. I'm hoping we get a similar idea with the Enterprise :)
 
I really liked that shirt and that concept. I'm hoping we get a similar idea with the Enterprise :)
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I wish they had wrapped up "Will You Take My Hand" a little better, but even that episode, which was a disappointment upon my first viewing, really felt better the second time through. Despite the plot / conclusion being rushed and wonky, there are some great individual moments in there that really rise above the material.

The wonkiness is what makes the episode. Before I saw it I kept thinking, "How the Hell are they going to wrap this up in one episode?!" Every time I was trying to figure out how they'd pull it off, I kept hitting a wall. They really thought out of the box.
 
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The wonkiness is what makes the episode. Before I saw it I kept thinking, "How the Hell are they going to wrap this up in one episode?!" Every time I was trying to figure out how they'd pull it off, I kept hitting a wall. They really thought out of the box.

It was maybe a little TOO out-of-the-box. The two points I get most hung-up on:

1. I'm still unclear as to why Mirror Pippa needed to command the mission. Was it because they knew the regular Starfleet crew wouldn't agree to do it?

2. Wouldn't someone in the Klingon Empire just take L'Rell out? Or beam the bomb detonator away? Seems like a very precarious perch to rule such a divided, unstable empire from...
 
final episode was the worst of the season because of those plot holes and the ponderous "This is what we stand for" speech at the end. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't up to par with the rest. It still had great moments. it felt like "can we just hurry this shit up, show a butt or two and then the Enterprise at the end?"

Tilly's "I'm high but you need to listen to me" will be one of my favorite Trek quotes.
 
final episode was the worst of the season because of those plot holes and the ponderous "This is what we stand for" speech at the end. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't up to par with the rest. It still had great moments. it felt like "can we just hurry this shit up, show a butt or two and then the Enterprise at the end?"

Tilly's "I'm high but you need to listen to me" will be one of my favorite Trek quotes.

I actually kind of liked the last speech. In a franchise filled with mediocre soliloquy (Picard, are you listening), I thought this one was pretty rousing...especially after what Burnham had seen (MU) and been through since the mutiny.
 
Two other things I gotta get out there:

1. Please PLEASE get the run-times of the episodes up a bit...roughly 40-45 mins is too short for a streaming show. The 10-15 mins they are not using could be used to fill in a ton of gaps. Even if it's just character padding that can be edited out for broadcast...that's ok. I expect and WANT some padding in a streaming drama. That's part of what makes it fun. It doesn't need to be GoT...but it also doesn't need to be KelvinTrek either!

2. More beauty shots of the ships...fly-bys...whatever. The USS Discovery is a great design. I just wish we could appreciate it more!
 
final episode was the worst of the season because of those plot holes and the ponderous "This is what we stand for" speech at the end. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't up to par with the rest. It still had great moments. it felt like "can we just hurry this shit up, show a butt or two and then the Enterprise at the end?"

I still sincerely believe that the showrunners must have planned some other ending, and were forced to change it at the last minute. The "well" set seemed shockingly low budget, the editing of the Starfleet pep rally was very weird (cutting between a speech Burnham was giving and being presented the medals) and the whole thing felt horribly rushed. I simply cannot believe that the writing team was so incompetent that they planned...that...the entire time, so I choose to believe it was forced on them by CBS.

The sad thing was, there were a lot of other parts of the finale I genuinely liked. The Qonos scenes were pretty good, with the writers finally realizing that maybe we wanted to see the crew on a planet with other humanoids. And except for the whole running off with his rapist thing, I liked how they concluded Ash's arc.
 
I still sincerely believe that the showrunners must have planned some other ending, and were forced to change it at the last minute. The "well" set seemed shockingly low budget, the editing of the Starfleet pep rally was very weird (cutting between a speech Burnham was giving and being presented the medals) and the whole thing felt horribly rushed. I simply cannot believe that the writing team was so incompetent that they planned...that...the entire time, so I choose to believe it was forced on them by CBS.

The sad thing was, there were a lot of other parts of the finale I genuinely liked. The Qonos scenes were pretty good, with the writers finally realizing that maybe we wanted to see the crew on a planet with other humanoids. And except for the whole running off with his rapist thing, I liked how they concluded Ash's arc.

But it was established that Ash wasn't raped. Voq, who was in love with L'Rell, volunteered to be grafted into Tyler...






....or whatever.....


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